m8.2 shooting without uv/ir filters

[paisatge]

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Jaapv, by the way, what lens code did you use on your LTM heliar 15mm? 16mm WATE?

[terence fairweather]

Hi Lansky,

 

I like the pics!

 

Did you use any exposure compensation as I like the saturated colours!

 

I`ve had my M8.2 for about five weeks now and still waiting for filters for my 50 cron and 90 f2.8 elmarit. Although not had much time to use it yet what with shift work. Terry.

[jaapv]

Jaapv, by the way, what lens code did you use on your LTM heliar 15mm? 16mm WATE?

Yes, but it is a pain. I don't look at the LCD that often, and the thing is always requesting a focal length....

[selfdialogue]

So how long is the wait on those free filters from Leica?

 

I just ordered free ones on Leica site after I found out the used M8 I bought was never registered. I returned the 39mm filter I bought thinking Leica would send them with in a week or two.

[summiluxaph@gmail.com]

I am about to purchase an m8.2 my first digital m with a new 28mm elmarit and I understand that I will have to send off to leica for my free filters. Can I shoot comfortably without an IR/UV filter in the meantime or is the camera effectively useless without such a filter attached.

 

The camara can make wonderful infrared pictures if you like, its worth trying. But you have to buy an infa red filter then.

 

For general use i use some lenses with UR filter ( the leica ones ) and some without ( the zeisses, ) and the colours doesn't bother me at all. But don't take pictures of black dressed people in church, they turn a little purple.

[jaapv]

So how long is the wait on those free filters from Leica?

 

I just ordered free ones on Leica site after I found out the used M8 I bought was never registered. I returned the 39mm filter I bought thinking Leica would send them with in a week or two.

IR filters are scarce at the moment. Even certain sizes of B&W are backordered just now. (for instance, 46 mm filters)

[sean_reid]

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With all the "trouble", probably better off getting the new M mount Heliar, isn't it?

 

Yes, the new version is easier to use with filters and coding - less hassle for sure.

 

Cheers,

 

Sean

[carlos.paula]

Dear friends, I am a first voyage sailorman with my new M8 and the problem involving the use of UV/IR filters. My doubts resume as it follows:

1 - For shooting B/W only, do I need these filters?

2 - What kind of filter I need to buy? That common UV filters will do the job? Or I really need a UV/IR filter? So, the Leica ones are very expensive. Do you know about good japanese ones, like Hoya? Thanks a lot.

[ho_co]

Carlos--

1) For black and white shooting, no filters are necessary.

 

2) You need the UV/IR-Cut filters, from Leica, Heliopan, B+W, maybe other suppliers as well.

 

That said, some people are content not to use the filters but to correct in Photoshop or other software. The problem with that is that IR amounts vary and there's no single once-for-all setting to dial in a correction. Since different substances reflect different amounts of IR, different parts of the picture require different adjustments.

 

You can go without filters, but the images will all be affected to some degree, and at some point the discrepancy will "bite" you badly.

 

The UV/IR-Cut filters are expensive because of the nature of the multicoating needed to make them. The layers reflect the IR back onto itself out of phase, annihilating it.

 

Congratulations on your new camera! I still use my M8 and love it!

[Jeff S]

I kept UV/IR cut filters on my M8.2 at all times, for b/w and color, except under strong night lights. (I never use 'super wide' lenses, which might be another cause for attention.) I find it much easier to leave the filter on and adjust in post as preferred; colors are otherwise subject to unpredictable IR contamination. I think M9 out-of camera b/w conversions lack the same 'crispness' of M8 files due to its less effective built-in IR filtration compared the use of external filters, however much a pain. And by leaving filters on, there is rarely effort involved.

 

I used Leica filters, as they came free with the camera. Even if not, I likely would have bought them anyway…minimal expense when you consider the cost of the lenses, and the filter benefits.

 

Jeff

[tobey bilek]

The results are fine, but you'll be even more happy when you get your filters. The grass will grow greener and the people around you will start wearing black again. Still, nice work.

 

Yes, grass will not yellow and synthetic fabric blacks will not purple.

[Lenshacker]

Dear friends, I am a first voyage sailorman with my new M8 and the problem involving the use of UV/IR filters. My doubts resume as it follows:

1 - For shooting B/W only, do I need these filters?

2 - What kind of filter I need to buy? That common UV filters will do the job? Or I really need a UV/IR filter? So, the Leica ones are very expensive. Do you know about good japanese ones, like Hoya? Thanks a lot.

 

I use Tiffen Hot Mirror filters on my longer lenses, use 48mm, 52mm, 62mm. They can be found used.

 

Just to illustrate the issue,

 

 

M8 with IR cut filter,

 

M8_Cutoff by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

 

M8 without the UV/IR cut filter over the lens,

 

M8_nocut by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

 

What the IR LED's look like using a camera with clear cover glass, ie no IR blocking filter over the sensor,

 

full_spectrum2 by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

 

Leica M9, no IR cut filter over lens.

 

M9_1 by fiftyonepointsix, on Flickr

[jaapv]

It is of course doable to correct non-IR filtered M8 images in Photoshop but it requires quite a bit of work and knowledge. It is far simpler and effective to add the appropriate filter.