Fotomiguel Posted November 7, 2006 Share #1 Posted November 7, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wrong or stupid question??? I'm thinking all the time on the Leica M8. That's the camara that I really like. Banding or blob problems will be solved or not (I think yes), but I'm not going to shot on lights anyway. I was going to buy the Digilux 3. After reading about M8 and analyzing samples, I have no doubt that it's excellent and will be for many years. My thoughts are: If I buy the digilux 3, in three years time I will upgrade to Digilux 4and I don't think that will be better than M8. So I would waste three years with no outstanding pictures. If I buy M8 with ZEISS-IKON BIOGON T* 2.8/25 ZM and ZEISS-IKON PLANAR T* 2/50 ZM for now, I'll get much more image quality than Digilux 3 and Digilux 4. I'm trying to justify myself spending so much money on a camara, but is better to invest than to spend.Then I can build my M system and from now on, I'll buy one Leica Lens every year. Do you think I'm right or perhaps getting crazy? What do you thing about these two lenses? not bad to start? would you choose the LEICA TRI-ELMAR-M 28-35-50 ASFERICO instead? Thank you very much? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 7, 2006 Posted November 7, 2006 Hi Fotomiguel, Take a look here Leica M8 vins Digilux 4?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
pascal_meheut Posted November 7, 2006 Share #2 Posted November 7, 2006 Your lenses are ok but you should read this thread: http://www.leica-camera-user.com/digital-forum/8576-response-zeiss-re-zm-lenses-m8.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
egibaud Posted November 7, 2006 Share #3 Posted November 7, 2006 I do not think you are stupid... as I think exactly the same way. And do not forget that the Digilux 3 is 4/3 format, not the M8. Buying the Digilux also means having 7,5 Mpix instead of 10,5... I have a Panasonic FZ30 and I am very satisfy although the autofocus sometimes is not as good as I wished... with the M8 I will be the autofocus The digilux 3 is probably a wonderful machine same as its sister camara the Panasonic L1 but if you go for the D Format you will start buying lens for it, and then good bye your M system. (or good bye to my wife) I think I'll buy the M8 and one Leica new lens, and instead of Zeiss probably second hand Leica lens that I'll have 6 bit coded. I have to leave... I have to write my Father Xmas wishes letter Eric Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted November 7, 2006 Share #4 Posted November 7, 2006 Miguel-- Your analysis is excellent. I bought the Digilux 2 two years ago and have had excellent results with it. But now that the M8 is available, I also want to make the jump to the better camera and not to the Digilux 3. But I have the benefit of having several Leica lenses already. I don't have all that I want, but I've got a place to start when I get the M8. As for the Tri-Elmar 28-35-50, I have it and I like it a lot. The only problem is its max aperture of f/4. And although it's very good, it isn't quite up to the quality of the 28/2, the 35/1.4 or the 50/1.4. But it costs and weighs less than those three together. I can't speak for you, of course. If the M8 were not scheduled for another couple years, I'd probably be buying a Digilux 3. But with the M8 available, for me it has to be that one. --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted November 7, 2006 Share #5 Posted November 7, 2006 If I buy the digilux 3, in three years time I will upgrade to Digilux 4and I don't think that will be better than M8. So I would waste three years with no outstanding pictures. I have a real problem with the implicit assumption that you'll make better — or outstanding — pictures if you buy the M8 rather than the Digilux 3. To state the obvious, it's the photographer not the camera that takes the pictures, and neither camera will make you a better photographer. Photography is about the pictures and not the equipment —Mitch/Bangkok http://www.flickr.com/photos/10268776@N00/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted November 7, 2006 Share #6 Posted November 7, 2006 M8 has a big advantage over the Digilux 3, at least to me: a bright viewfinder. I agree one can shot good pictures with almost any camera but I never got use to today's entry range DSLR's viewfinder. I cannot simply compose the images the way I like with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malland Posted November 7, 2006 Share #7 Posted November 7, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Pascal: As I've written in another thread, I've been using the Ricoh GR-D since July and thought that I would use my VC28 and Leica 21 external viewfinders with it. However, once I started shooting with the camera I foumd that I liked using the LCD better because it lead me to a much "looser" shooting style: the few days I put the VC28 finder on the camera I found that I never used it, but continued to frame with the LCD. —MItch/Bangkok http://www.flickr.com/photos/10268776@N00/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotomiguel Posted November 7, 2006 Author Share #8 Posted November 7, 2006 Mitch: I think that almost all have understood what I meant! Perhaps my pictures won't be outstanding, but the quality of the pictures will be better with the M8. Sorry, If my inglish is not so good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted November 7, 2006 Share #9 Posted November 7, 2006 Point of clarification for Mitch: The D3 has an optical viewfinder --- except in rare circumstances, you do not (cannot) compose with the LCD. In fact, the LCD does not even display a ttl image except when the optical viewfinder is turned off (so called "live view" mode). See the attached image. This is what the D3s LCD will look like when you are shooting. I think Pascal's point about the viewfinder was not that it's non-existent (a la compact point and shoots such as the D-Lux), but rather that it's both not a rangefinder, and it's not very bright (because it utilizes a porro prism mirror arrangement). I've pre-ordered the D3, and I'm anxious to try it. I don't imagine I'll like the viewfinder as much as my M7, but having never owned an SLR (film or digital), I'm just interested in exploring the paradigm. I'll still get the M8 at some point, but given all of the initial problems, I'm glad I decided several weeks ago to wait till next year. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted November 7, 2006 Share #10 Posted November 7, 2006 What is that in the Flash Socket ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted November 7, 2006 Share #11 Posted November 7, 2006 I'm not sure. I got this photo from postings someone else made about a demo day in Singapore (I think). Whatever that is it was also in the socket of the M8 in several photos. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted November 7, 2006 Share #12 Posted November 7, 2006 What is that in the Flash Socket ? i think its a baby Metz Riley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted November 7, 2006 Share #13 Posted November 7, 2006 oops i guess not Riley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted November 7, 2006 Share #14 Posted November 7, 2006 i think its a baby Metz Riley If it is I want one for my M8 when it comes in !!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&W Posted November 7, 2006 Share #15 Posted November 7, 2006 What is that in the Flash Socket ? Not sure, but I think it is a transmitter for flashlight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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