kalina Posted May 29, 2009 Share #1 Posted May 29, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) ... and it works pretty well so far. It's light enough to not ruin the balance of the M8, which is already a little cumbersome to use, in my opinion. The flash is very bright. A big downside is the use of CR123 batteries. I'll have to stock up on them, I guess. I wonder if I could use this on my D-Lux 4... hmmm... anyways, that thing is still in Leica repair, NJ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lars_bergquist Posted May 29, 2009 Share #2 Posted May 29, 2009 Get a Nikon SC19 or SC17 connecting cable and you'll really see what this little jewel is capable of. Subscribe to Sean Reid's http://www.reidreviews.com and see his essay on 'Working With Flash'. I use the same technique, but it's even better with GNC. The old man from the Age of Flashpowder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adavis47 Posted May 29, 2009 Share #3 Posted May 29, 2009 Get a Nikon SC19 or SC17 connecting cable and you'll really see what this little jewel is capable of. Subscribe to Sean Reid's www.reidreviews.com and see his essay on 'Working With Flash'. I use the same technique, but it's even better with GNC. Just starting to ponder a flash unit. What exactly does the Nikon cable do? Thanks for the help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted May 29, 2009 Share #4 Posted May 29, 2009 A cable allows you to use the flash off-camera for much better lighting effects. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalina Posted May 29, 2009 Author Share #5 Posted May 29, 2009 Get a Nikon SC19 or SC17 connecting cable and you'll really see what this little jewel is capable of. Subscribe to Sean Reid's www.reidreviews.com and see his essay on 'Working With Flash'. I use the same technique, but it's even better with GNC. Just starting to ponder a flash unit. What exactly does the Nikon cable do? Thanks for the help. Yep, like bouncing the flash off of the walls and ceiling, for example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cme4brain Posted May 29, 2009 Share #6 Posted May 29, 2009 ... and it works pretty well so far. It's light enough to not ruin the balance of the M8, which is already a little cumbersome to use, in my opinion. The flash is very bright. A big downside is the use of CR123 batteries. I'll have to stock up on them, I guess. I wonder if I could use this on my D-Lux 4... hmmm... anyways, that thing is still in Leica repair, NJ. I am still using my original batteries, the last a surprisingly long time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grober Posted May 29, 2009 Share #7 Posted May 29, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Kalina, Take a hacksaw and soldering iron to your new flash and see if you can turn it into a tilting one. This is what Leica should have done with their "new" flash. Instead we have the oversize SF58 beast. Still looking for a light . . . -g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
underground Posted May 30, 2009 Share #8 Posted May 30, 2009 ... and it works pretty well so far. It's light enough to not ruin the balance of the M8, which is already a little cumbersome to use, in my opinion. The flash is very bright. A big downside is the use of CR123 batteries. I'll have to stock up on them, I guess. I wonder if I could use this on my D-Lux 4... hmmm... anyways, that thing is still in Leica repair, NJ. The SF24D works just fine on the D Lux 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sclamb Posted May 30, 2009 Share #9 Posted May 30, 2009 Mine only seems to work in A mode and not in TTL mode on my DL4. Simon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Negative Posted May 30, 2009 Share #10 Posted May 30, 2009 Kalina, Take a hacksaw and soldering iron to your new flash and see if you can turn it into a tilting one. This is what Leica should have done with their "new" flash. Instead we have the oversize SF58 beast. Still looking for a light . . . -g Agreed... The new flash is so... Anti-Leica. Oddly enough, Canon's latest Speedlite is kind of what Leica should've done - a very small unit that offers tilt! But they screwed up and made it auto-only. *sigh* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted May 30, 2009 Share #11 Posted May 30, 2009 Get a Nikon SC19 or SC17 connecting cable and you'll really see what this little jewel is capable of. Subscribe to Sean Reid's www.reidreviews.com and see his essay on 'Working With Flash'. I use the same technique, but it's even better with GNC. Just starting to ponder a flash unit. What exactly does the Nikon cable do? Thanks for the help. The cable is spiralized with connectors for the hot shoe in one end and for the flash foot in the other. The point is, note, that Nikon has its extra 'info contacts' in exactly the same places as Leica. Nikon's functions are of course different, but the cable is just an unintelligent cable, connecting point to point, so that does not matter. But -- you have the flash in your (left) hand, you can direct it as you please -- including a reflecting ceiling or wall -- and through-the-lens metering does still give you good exposure. Nifty! The old man from the Age of Huge Flashbulbs With Edison Screw Mounts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted May 30, 2009 Share #12 Posted May 30, 2009 Sorry, I think the SF-24D is an over-priced horror. Its sole redeeming feature is the ability to use GNC with the flash off camera but with its flimsy plastic case, easy to lose diffusers, horrible display and nasty shoe lock, I hate it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted May 30, 2009 Share #13 Posted May 30, 2009 Sorry, I think the SF-24D is an over-priced horror. Its sole redeeming feature is the ability to use GNC with the flash off camera but with its flimsy plastic case, easy to lose diffusers, horrible display and nasty shoe lock, I hate it! Mark - it's a position! ... I have one - use it rarely, but am glad it's there for the very rare occasions I need it. I use the Leica Goodies SFILL diffuser - this does a good job - I find it makes the SF-24D more useable in the circumstances I use it... Get your SFILL! Best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adavis47 Posted May 30, 2009 Share #14 Posted May 30, 2009 The cable is spiralized with connectors for the hot shoe in one end and for the flash foot in the other. The point is, note, that Nikon has its extra 'info contacts' in exactly the same places as Leica. Nikon's functions are of course different, but the cable is just an unintelligent cable, connecting point to point, so that does not matter. But -- you have the flash in your (left) hand, you can direct it as you please -- including a reflecting ceiling or wall -- and through-the-lens metering does still give you good exposure. Nifty! The old man from the Age of Huge Flashbulbs With Edison Screw Mounts Thank you! The flash just went off in my brain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cme4brain Posted May 30, 2009 Share #15 Posted May 30, 2009 Kalina, Take a hacksaw and soldering iron to your new flash and see if you can turn it into a tilting one. This is what Leica should have done with their "new" flash. Instead we have the oversize SF58 beast. Still looking for a light . . . -g Yes, Leica has two extremes of flash- the underpowered non-tiltable SF24D and the Metz-hijacked 58AF that is bigger than the camera. Why couldn't they make one like the Nikon SB-400 that is used on my D300? Smaller than the SF24D with a tiltable head. Flash has always been a non-priority at Leica, and afterthought. Go here for the SB-400: Nikon SB-400 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalina Posted May 30, 2009 Author Share #16 Posted May 30, 2009 Yes, Leica has two extremes of flash- the underpowered non-tiltable SF24D and the Metz-hijacked 58AF that is bigger than the camera. Why couldn't they make one like the Nikon SB-400 that is used on my D300? Smaller than the SF24D with a tiltable head. Flash has always been a non-priority at Leica, and afterthought. Go here for the SB-400: Nikon SB-400 I actually had an SB-400 (and I still have an SB-600 and SB-800) but I sold it before I got my M8. I tried the SB-400 with my D-Lux 4 and the flash was too bright. I agree that the size of the SB-400 was just right, but it wasn't very configurable. My other flashes have a lot more options, but they're way too heavy for the M8 and ruin the balance of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimmel Posted June 13, 2009 Share #17 Posted June 13, 2009 I actually had an SB-400 (and I still have an SB-600 and SB-800) but I sold it before I got my M8. I tried the SB-400 with my D-Lux 4 and the flash was too bright. I agree that the size of the SB-400 was just right, but it wasn't very configurable. My other flashes have a lot more options, but they're way too heavy for the M8 and ruin the balance of it. What do you mean by it not being very configurable? Can you dial down the flash to, say -1 ev, to compensate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalina Posted June 14, 2009 Author Share #18 Posted June 14, 2009 What do you mean by it not being very configurable? Can you dial down the flash to, say -1 ev, to compensate? You mean on the camera? Didn't work for me. Or do you mean on the flash itself? You can't adjust anything via buttons because there's nothing more than an on-off switch. On my SB-600 and 800, I could adjust (configure) everything on the flash itself via buttons and LCD screen on the flash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimmel Posted June 14, 2009 Share #19 Posted June 14, 2009 You mean on the camera? Didn't work for me.Or do you mean on the flash itself? You can't adjust anything via buttons because there's nothing more than an on-off switch. On my SB-600 and 800, I could adjust (configure) everything on the flash itself via buttons and LCD screen on the flash. Ah, thanks! Didn't realize it had no way to adjust it from the flash. How's the SB-600 on the M8? Does it balance OK? Work well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kalina Posted June 14, 2009 Author Share #20 Posted June 14, 2009 Ah, thanks! Didn't realize it had no way to adjust it from the flash. How's the SB-600 on the M8? Does it balance OK? Work well? The SB-600 is very manually configurable, but... it throws the balance of the M8 way off by making it top heavy. If I have the head tilted forward, it makes my M8 feel like it wants to roll forward in my hands. I wish someone would develop something that inserts into the flash connector with a tiltable plate that my SF 24 can sit on. Then I can adjust it as if it were a tiltable head flash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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