hitfidelity Posted March 11, 2009 Share #1 Posted March 11, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hallo, ich habe eine wunderschöne Leica geerbt und wollte damit jetzt mal Fotos machen, allerdings konnte ich noch nicht den Sinn aller Bauteile verstehen. Vor allem das Rädchen unter dem Stellknopf für die Belichtungszeit - habe ich noch nirgendwo gesehen:confused:... hat jemand eine Idee, was es damit auf sich hat? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/79179-leica-iiic-in-grau-aber-was-ist-das-f%C3%BCr-ein-r%C3%A4dchen/?do=findComment&comment=837479'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 11, 2009 Posted March 11, 2009 Hi hitfidelity, Take a look here Leica IIIc in grau - aber was ist das für ein Rädchen?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Ilvesheim Posted March 11, 2009 Share #2 Posted March 11, 2009 Herzlich Willkommen im Forum. Schau einmal hier im Leica Wiki: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.de/index.php/Hauptseite Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ron (Netherlands) Posted March 11, 2009 Share #3 Posted March 11, 2009 Hallo, ich habe eine wunderschöne Leica geerbt und wollte damit jetzt mal Fotos machen, allerdings konnte ich noch nicht den Sinn aller Bauteile verstehen. Vor allem das Rädchen unter dem Stellknopf für die Belichtungszeit - habe ich noch nirgendwo gesehen:confused:... hat jemand eine Idee, was es damit auf sich hat? Its for synchronizing the shutter for different types of flash bulbs. Sorry for my German. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitfidelity Posted March 11, 2009 Author Share #4 Posted March 11, 2009 Its for synchronizing the shutter for different types of flash bulbs. Sorry for my German. Den Wiki-Artikel hatte ich bereits gelesen, konnte dort allerdings nichts dazu finden. Für verschiedene Flash-bulbs - und wie stelle ich da jetzt was ein? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubice Posted March 12, 2009 Share #5 Posted March 12, 2009 You have a gray Leica IIIc, which was converted by Leitz to a flash-synchronized Leica IIIf. As a matter of fact, quite an interesting camera; I am sure that not many gray IIIc's were converted in this way. The dial under the shutter speed knob sets the advance for flash exposures. It was quite a complicated system used only on the IIIf - the IIIg did away with it. If you send me a private message through the forum messaging system and provide me with your email address, I can email you a pdf file with detailed instructions how to set the Leica IIIf's flash dial when using electronic flash or flash bulbs. Best, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitfidelity Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted March 12, 2009 (Ich wechsel mal auf Englisch) Thank you very much! When I first looked at it I thougt the dial might be more or less useless - maybe a counter-dial or something. But I never thougt that it may be an "upgrade-gadget" that turns the camera into a IIIf. Even if I probably won´t use it very often (using the flash with this sort of camera won´t be much fun, I guess) I´d like to have a look at the pdf. It´ll be interesting, thank you very much for that in advance!! I hope I´ll be able to write to you, I never did it in this way before... Two more questions - is it really this one difference which can turn the IIIc into a IIIf - or should it be called a converted IIIc? And because you mentioned it- would it be wiser to use a different IIIc (which I could also) that is chrome-coated and doesn´t have this dial? Because if that thing should be too expensive I wouldn´t dare to turn any dial - I´m not very experienced in using cameras of that age... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrid Posted March 12, 2009 Share #7 Posted March 12, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Gray cameras were made for the German armed forces during WWII, unless this is a repaint. Have you checked the serial number? Are there any markings like 'Heer' or 'Luftwaffen-Eigentum' ? If it's an original it's worth more than just a regular camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitfidelity Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share #8 Posted March 12, 2009 Gray cameras were made for the German armed forces during WWII, unless this is a repaint.Have you checked the serial number? Are there any markings like 'Heer' or 'Luftwaffen-Eigentum' ? If it's an original it's worth more than just a regular camera. There are no such markings on it, and I think I´m glad about it:cool:...it´s from my grandpa and he´s been in the army in WWII, and he shot a lot of pics with this (and some more) cameras. A petty that we couldn´t keep all of them. But it shurely isn´t repainted as far as I could tell, and it shure is an original. The serial number indicates that it is from 1940 /41. I didn´t manage to take some time for testing, but now I have some good instructions for all the dials.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitfidelity Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share #9 Posted March 12, 2009 l The serial number indicates that it is from 1940 /41. . Sorry, 1941/42, to be exact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thrid Posted March 12, 2009 Share #10 Posted March 12, 2009 There are no such markings on it, and I think I´m glad about it:cool:...it´s from my grandpa and he´s been in the army in WWII, and he shot a lot of pics with this (and some more) cameras. A petty that we couldn´t keep all of them. But it shurely isn´t repainted as far as I could tell, and it shure is an original. The serial number indicates that it is from 1940 /41. I didn´t manage to take some time for testing, but now I have some good instructions for all the dials.... If it's gray I'm guessing it was 'Heer', which would mean the Wehrmacht aka German Army. The lens may have a tiny engraving 'Heer'. Luftwaffe (airforce) are usually silver chrome. My uncle came back from the war with several cameras, but unfortunately they are still up in his attic. In addition to your camera being an heirloom, it's a piece of history. You may want to send James Lager an email with the serial number. He's the world authority on these things. James L. Lager Leica Researcher and Historian E-mail: jlager@bellatlantic.net Phone: 201-768-5426 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClausB Posted March 12, 2009 Share #11 Posted March 12, 2009 Hallo, erstmal herzlich willkommen im Forum. sie haben es sicherlich schon gemerkt, Sie sind im internationalen Forum gelandet. Stellen Sie das Foto nochmals mit 800p Breite ein, so kann man kaum etwas erkennen. Auf jeden Fall ist es eine konvertierte IIIf. Eine Betriebsanleitung gibt es im Wiki. Grüße Claus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. No Posted March 12, 2009 Share #12 Posted March 12, 2009 Hi, first congratulations to this camera. it is a rare one. it is converted from IIIc to IIIf - as said above -, but it is still a IIIc. If you compare the pics in the german wiki, the differences are described. if it is still the orginial color -what I would expect - you have to be carefull not to rip it of. for the camera itselve it is good to use it. you should keep and not sell it ! Grüße, OLAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. No Posted March 12, 2009 Share #13 Posted March 12, 2009 If it's gray I'm guessing it was 'Heer', which would mean the Wehrmacht aka German Army. The lens may have a tiny engraving 'Heer'. Luftwaffe (airforce) are usually silver chrome. My uncle came back from the war with several cameras, but unfortunately they are still up in his attic. In addition to your camera being an heirloom, it's a piece of history. You may want to send James Lager an email with the serial number. He's the world authority on these things. James L. Lager Leica Researcher and Historian E-mail: jlager@bellatlantic.net Phone: 201-768-5426 the most important publication is the list of Dr. Cane, published by Leica Historica, Germany. More informations: LEICA HISTORICA Shop - Bücher - Books NO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jc_braconi Posted March 12, 2009 Share #14 Posted March 12, 2009 If it's gray I'm guessing it was 'Heer', which would mean the Wehrmacht aka German Army. The lens may have a tiny engraving 'Heer'. Luftwaffe (airforce) are usually silver chrome. My uncle came back from the war with several cameras, but unfortunately they are still up in his attic. In addition to your camera being an heirloom, it's a piece of history. You have one example here : http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-collectors-historica/79588-little-12-a.html Some Leica IIIc were used as prototypes for the Leica IIIf development after war. Some were painted because the nickel & chrome were rare in this era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitfidelity Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share #15 Posted March 12, 2009 Hallo, erstmal herzlich willkommen im Forum. sie haben es sicherlich schon gemerkt, Sie sind im internationalen Forum gelandet. Stellen Sie das Foto nochmals mit 800p Breite ein, so kann man kaum etwas erkennen. Auf jeden Fall ist es eine konvertierte IIIf. Eine Betriebsanleitung gibt es im Wiki.Grüße Claus Gerne, ich hatte das Foto verkleinert, da die Datei laut Vorgabe zu groß war. Ich probier´s mal... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/79179-leica-iiic-in-grau-aber-was-ist-das-f%C3%BCr-ein-r%C3%A4dchen/?do=findComment&comment=838538'>More sharing options...
Dr. No Posted March 12, 2009 Share #16 Posted March 12, 2009 schöne Kamera! OLAF Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitfidelity Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share #17 Posted March 12, 2009 if it is still the orginial color -what I would expect - you have to be carefull not to rip it of. for the camera itselve it is good to use it. you should keep and not sell it ! Don´t rip the colour off - use it - I don´t know if that´s what I want, I think I would always be afraid to destroy something...seems to be the most expensive camera I ever owned:(. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. No Posted March 12, 2009 Share #18 Posted March 12, 2009 ..seems to be the most expensive camera I ever owned:(. right - spann sie wenigstens regelmäßig und lös sie aus! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hitfidelity Posted March 12, 2009 Author Share #19 Posted March 12, 2009 If it's gray I'm guessing it was 'Heer', which would mean the Wehrmacht aka German Army. The lens may have a tiny engraving 'Heer'. Luftwaffe (airforce) are usually silver chrome. I have taken a closer look - but I can´t find anything - even on the lenses - only a little handmade engraving that may be "WB" - probably - because these were the first letters of his name. But nothing else - and I´m kind of astounded when I see that objects with nazi symbols or writings score unbelievable prices. I wouldn´t feel good owning and caressing such a thing... You may want to send James Lager an email with the serial number. He's the world authority on these things. Could he tell something only with the number? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted March 12, 2009 Share #20 Posted March 12, 2009 Sorry, 1941/42, to be exact. Lager documented a IIIc very close to yours - 388565 - declaring it's from 1942, same gray finish - no military engravings, but of course not "upgraded" with flash sync. Wonderful item... keep it with care. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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