JLV Posted March 8, 2009 Share #1 Posted March 8, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi all, Is there a quality difference and price (second hand market) between the canadian summicron (35/2 in particular ) and the wetzlar one. Thanks for you comments All the best Jean-Luc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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doubice Posted March 8, 2009 Share #2 Posted March 8, 2009 Hi all, Is there a quality difference and price (second hand market) between the canadian summicron (35/2 in particular ) and the wetzlar one. Thanks for you comments All the best Jean-Luc Jean-Luc, There was absolutely no difference in quality between the Midland or Wetzlar lenses. As a mater of fact, some lenses were produced exclusively in Midland (the original f/1 50mm Noctilux comes to mind...). As to price difference, which Summicron 35mm version are you referring to? The lens has been available since 1958 and only the latest ASPH version is being made exclusively in Germany. Best, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john_j Posted March 8, 2009 Share #3 Posted March 8, 2009 Greetings- This is always an interesting question. I have had and have several Canadian lenses and have always been pleased with them. I once heard that the Canadian if anything may be better because that's where lenses for the military were made. One thing, it's been many years since lenses were made in Canada. I think perhaps the late 1980's. So, it's possible a newer lens from Germany has performance revisions. Check the serial numbers. Best, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lars_bergquist Posted March 8, 2009 Share #4 Posted March 8, 2009 Are you thinking of the V.4 (last non-ASPH) Summicron? There is no quality difference between Canadian and German production. Collectors, being a perverse lot, would probably pay more for Ernst Leitz Wetzlar than for Ernst Leitz Canada, simply because of rarity. And then there are of course the 1983 'Jubilee' 70th anniversary engraved specimens, of which there are 2000---made in Canada ... But get this: The lenses from Midland Ontario were made to the same quality standards as those from Wetzlar in Hessen. The old man from the Age of Reason Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kipkeston Posted March 8, 2009 Share #5 Posted March 8, 2009 There may be differences in coatings. That said, I have two canadians and one german leitz lens. The german lens is warmer in color, the canadaians identical and cooler. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubice Posted March 8, 2009 Share #6 Posted March 8, 2009 There may be differences in coatings. That said, I have two canadians and one german leitz lens. The german lens is warmer in color, the canadaians identical and cooler. Lenses of the same generation had identical designs and coatings. If you were to compare for instance a Canadian lens made in the 1960's to a German lens made in the 70's, there may be differences in coatings. This however, is not country of origin related but, depends on the year of production - there were obviously advances in coating technology. During the 1960's and 1970' Leitz lenses can be found with brownish or blueish coatings - this depends on the lens, not on country of manufacture. Simply put - a lens made in 1970 will have the same coating whether made in Canada or Germany. Same will apply to identical lenses made in 1960 or 1980...... Best, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLV Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share #7 Posted March 8, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thank you very much to all of you. I was referring to the last version of the cron 35/2 non asph. I can have one in mint condition for 750euros plus 150 for coding. All the best Jean-Luc from south of France Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtorrents Posted March 8, 2009 Share #8 Posted March 8, 2009 a few months ago I bought a seconhand canadian 35/2 for 950 € and it's superb. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafael_macia Posted March 8, 2009 Share #9 Posted March 8, 2009 Thank you very much to all of you. I was referring to the last version of the cron 35/2 non asph. I can have one in mint condition for 750euros plus 150 for coding. All the best Jean-Luc from south of France The lens price sounds Ok. The coding price is too high. YOu can remove the flange, and mail your lens for coding for probably under 50 euros? ( know here (in the US) coding is about $30 ..... not by Leica, but by aftermarket providers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLV Posted March 8, 2009 Author Share #10 Posted March 8, 2009 Thanks Rafaël, I will check that. All the best Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafael_macia Posted March 9, 2009 Share #11 Posted March 9, 2009 Thanks Rafaël, I will check that.All the best Here; John is well respected and can do the coding ... $25-$30 Even with shipping, it still will probably be faster than Leica John Milich Product & Design jm@milich.com Building 280 Room 618 Brooklyn Navy Yard 63 Flushing Avenue Unit 322 Brooklyn New York 11205 John is a good guy, and a friend. Rafael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubice Posted March 9, 2009 Share #12 Posted March 9, 2009 I add my vote to Rafael's recommendation of John Milich. He has coded all my Leica lenses and LTM to M mount adapters. In the case of the 35mm Summicron, you will have to remove the lens mount and ship it alone, without the lens. Once back from John's coding, simply re-attach it. When you remove the bayonet mount, put the screws back into their respective holes; less chance of losing them and will keep the focusing mount secure as well. I also have the version IV 35mm 'cron, it is a superb lens - mine happens to be Wetzlar production. The Canadian version, as noted above, is identical. Best, Jan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLV Posted March 9, 2009 Author Share #13 Posted March 9, 2009 Thanks to all. Does this man has a Shop in NY? There's a chance that I will spend some time there this summer. I love this city so much. Jean-Luc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafael_macia Posted March 16, 2009 Share #14 Posted March 16, 2009 Thanks to all.Does this man has a Shop in NY? There's a chance that I will spend some time there this summer. I love this city so much. Jean-Luc Hi, No he does not have a shop (storefront). Shipping the removed flange is probably the best way. What I have done is put a small sandwich baggie over the removed flange lens, securing it over the lens with a rubber band. I put the little screws folded into a piece of tape, and stick that in the baggie . Then I put the covered lens on a shelf. so it is undisturbed until the flange returns. Communicate with John about painting the coding in. There are differences in paint types. When you ship the lens let him know what lens exactly the flange is from. You can write that on the baggie with a sharpie Rafael sorry for the delay in responding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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