Zelig Posted March 20, 2009 Share #41 Posted March 20, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Dear VF addictsA VF has no parallax correction. A VF is for one focal length only. A VF does not give a good impression of the upcoming picture. The electronic viewfinder of the Kodak P880 or the Panasonic G1 has a very small LCD-screen combined with a lens to look at it. The problems mentioned above are not existent. Our Digilux-4 has an LCD screen, a large one of 4 x 6 cm. What fails is a lens with an appropriate focal length to look at it from a fixed position. The position could be fixed with a rod mounted on the tripod screw. I have tried the lens of a slide viewer for slides of 4 x 4 cm. The angle of view is too small in this case. Could somebody try the lens of a slideviewer for 4 x 6 or 6 x 6 and report his findings here? Jan PS I was an VF addict too, but I am in doubt now. A VF delivers a mans eye view only. With the LCD screen you can choose from a frog eye view up to a view from overhead! The times, they are a-changing. Thanks God for your illumination!!!! after years ussing SRL and DSRL thank you for discovering all of us the Mediterranean sea!. Besides quality, Leica also means discretion and a VF means also no LCD light anywhere... do you only read or maybe also understand? Yes man: Times are changing dear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GCHA Posted March 20, 2009 Share #42 Posted March 20, 2009 Dear VF addictsA VF has no parallax correction. A VF is for one focal length only. A VF does not give a good impression of the upcoming picture. The electronic viewfinder of the Kodak P880 or the Panasonic G1 has a very small LCD-screen combined with a lens to look at it. The problems mentioned above are not existent. Our Digilux-4 has an LCD screen, a large one of 4 x 6 cm. What fails is a lens with an appropriate focal length to look at it from a fixed position. The position could be fixed with a rod mounted on the tripod screw. I have tried the lens of a slide viewer for slides of 4 x 4 cm. The angle of view is too small in this case. Could somebody try the lens of a slideviewer for 4 x 6 or 6 x 6 and report his findings here? Jan PS I was an VF addict too, but I am in doubt now. A VF delivers a mans eye view only. With the LCD screen you can choose from a frog eye view up to a view from overhead! The times, they are a-changing. jan, I have been using a loupe/viewer, made by Hoodman with my D Lux 4. It allows one to view the full lcd screen with a diopter adjustment, and a soft rubber hood to block out the ambient light. I purchased it from West Coast Camera. Might be a bit cunberson to use hand held, but works great when workinf from a tripod. Check it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hifiboy Posted March 21, 2009 Share #43 Posted March 21, 2009 The D Lux 4 dedicated Leica one.Why: Because it was available in the shop where I bought the D Lux in Montpellier and it is made for it! I am very happy with it. Cheers Jean-Luc You are lucky. I've had mine on order since October and there is still no sight of it. I hope it comes in the next 4 weeks so I can use it on holiday. I did get my mocha case the other day and its fantastic. As they say little things please little minds. Cheers Jim. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
picturelady Posted March 21, 2009 Share #44 Posted March 21, 2009 jan,I have been using a loupe/viewer, made by Hoodman with my D Lux 4. It allows one to view the full lcd screen with a diopter adjustment, and a soft rubber hood to block out the ambient light. I purchased it from West Coast Camera. Might be a bit cunberson to use hand held, but works great when workinf from a tripod. Check it out. Jan...Are you using the Hoodman for taking the photo too? I assume you are. Do you attach it to the camera body or just hold it there? Is it heavy for carrying around your neck when you are not using it? It looks like it might be a really good alternative to the EVF... I am still searching for the best solution in bright light conditions! Thanks, Margie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCHA Posted March 21, 2009 Share #45 Posted March 21, 2009 Margie, Gary Here, I use the HOODMAN to compose and focus, etc. Always on a tripod. I usually hang the viewfinder around my neck on a strap, when not in use. It is very light, and does not scratch the LCD. I just set up the shot, using the LCD.. Holding the Hoodman in my free hand, I do my composing, focusing, exposure, etc, and take the picture... When the ambient light is very bright, I use it all the time. I do not have it attached to the camera in any way, but you could rig something up, with a strong rubber band or small bungee, I suppose. The optic is reasonably sharp, and is adjustable for your eyesight. Using it, is kind of like using a view camera, but without the dark cloth! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
picturelady Posted March 21, 2009 Share #46 Posted March 21, 2009 Thank you Gary...it sounds like the HOODMAN is a good way for me to go. I think I will give it a try! BTW...I checked out your photos and they are beautiful. Thank you for reminding me too to use a tripod! Margie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
intex Posted March 22, 2009 Share #47 Posted March 22, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am totally confused now. I need to get a VF before I leave on a trip, and thought I was going to order a 24mm, but now I am reading the threads that are recommending a 50mm 1. What is the advantage of going to a 50mm over the 24/28mm? 2. What VF is recommended ? the SOOBI or the Voightlander 50mm ?? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelig Posted March 22, 2009 Share #48 Posted March 22, 2009 I am totally confused now. I need to get a VF before I leave on a trip, and thought I was going to order a 24mm, but now I am reading the threads that are recommending a 50mm 1. What is the advantage of going to a 50mm over the 24/28mm? 2. What VF is recommended ? the SOOBI or the Voightlander 50mm ?? Thanks I just can say you a couple things: A VF is just an optical help and in this case is also the way to be discret without LCD lights. Whit the 24mm Leica dedicated original one you have an accurate 24mm vision of what you''ll get in 24mm shooting and 35mm market lines of what you'll get with 35mm shooting in your D-L4. And that's all you can hope. Otherwise take a Pro-DSRL an you'll get the 100% of your shoot before shooting. That's all you can expect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
intex Posted March 22, 2009 Share #49 Posted March 22, 2009 OK, I just ordered a Leitz SOOBI VF, I hope this will give me an approx view somewhere between wide open and zoom. It is in Silver, has anyone ever painted these black, to match the DLux4? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burkey Posted March 22, 2009 Share #50 Posted March 22, 2009 Gary - can you tell is which model "Hoodman" you're using? Their web site is a bit overwhelming. Thanks in advance. . . . Burkey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GCHA Posted March 22, 2009 Share #51 Posted March 22, 2009 burkey, Here is a link to the Hoodman that I have, and where I purchased it! Good luck.. The West Coast Cameras Leica Specialty Shop - Your #1 Leica USA Authorized Dealer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burkey Posted March 22, 2009 Share #52 Posted March 22, 2009 Thanks for the quick response. Very nice. It looks like a possibility. , , , Burkey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted March 25, 2009 Share #53 Posted March 25, 2009 I just had one of those "duh" moments. I got my 24mm finder from Popflash (on sale) a couple of days ago and it didn't dawn on me until just now that I would also be able to use it when I put my 24mm lens on the M6. So, now I don't feel so bad about the cost. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA road racer Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share #54 Posted March 31, 2009 I want to thank all of you who posted in this thread. After reading all comments, I ordered & have received a Voigtlander 50mm viewfinder in black from B&H at what I feel is a very good price! It exceeds what I expected it to be! Thanks again to all of you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo035 Posted May 5, 2009 Share #55 Posted May 5, 2009 A "silver" Voigtländer 28/35; after much deliberation and surfing - so pleased to find a new one "on the continent" for £50 less than the average UK price. Would have preferred a black one to blend in with the D-Lux 4, but at that price.... there's enough change to buy a tin of Humbrol black enamel paint :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Franiec Posted May 5, 2009 Share #56 Posted May 5, 2009 Here is what I use: Contax GF-21mm http://lh4.ggpht.com/_8Ouk_Mzlng0/SgBv0x2AHpI/AAAAAAAAARI/ASPJn7Sf9i4/s720/IMG_0034a.jpg http://lh5.ggpht.com/_8Ouk_Mzlng0/SgC6rO_8VwI/AAAAAAAAATk/l41ha0PcVMA/s720/IMG_0035.JPG Cheers Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thondup Posted May 6, 2009 Share #57 Posted May 6, 2009 I use the dedicated VF it is great especially under direct sunlight when the viewing is difficult. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricardojh Posted May 6, 2009 Share #58 Posted May 6, 2009 Please post your thoughts after you receive the finder and use it. Thanks. Richard Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordW Posted May 6, 2009 Share #59 Posted May 6, 2009 I'm using the vf made for the D Lux 4.Love it. No interference between the pop up flash and the vf. It's a must have in bright light, worth it for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo035 Posted May 18, 2009 Share #60 Posted May 18, 2009 A "silver" Voigtländer 28/35; after much deliberation and surfing - so pleased to find a new one "on the continent" for £50 less than the average UK price. Would have preferred a black one to blend in with the D-Lux 4, but at that price.... there's enough change to buy a tin of Humbrol black enamel paint :-) Reluctantly I shall have to let this Voigtlander "mini" 28/35 go, as seeing the whole of frames - even pressing my eye-glasses right up against it - is impossible. Looks as though the "proper" Leica (or possibly the Voiglander 25 (or 21mm) is the answer for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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