R10dreamer Posted March 23, 2009 Share #21 Posted March 23, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) First concept camera I've been able to use then If by nothing at all, you mean full characteristics, technology used, a full set of lenses, I guess you are right I am pretty sure that the concept cars the auto industry makes can be driven. Your point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pascal_meheut Posted March 24, 2009 Share #22 Posted March 24, 2009 I am pretty sure that the concept cars the auto industry makes can be driven. Your point? Well, next time a car manufacturer let you drive a concept car at a big show like Leica let us try the S2, let me know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10dreamer Posted March 24, 2009 Share #23 Posted March 24, 2009 Drive it? Did you actually shoot it? See the files? Process the images? Check the metering? :eek: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 24, 2009 Share #24 Posted March 24, 2009 Just read the coming LFI.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted March 25, 2009 Share #25 Posted March 25, 2009 Drive it? Did you actually shoot it? See the files? Process the images? Check the metering? Nice way of talking about something else (BTW, the answer to your questions is mostly yes). Still waiting to know where and when car industry allows users to drive the concept cars at big show But my guess is that you'll find another way of avoiding the subject to continue to live in a imaginary world where your fantasies have a chance of coming true. BTW, this is the same story over and over again and I'm tired of repeating that we head the exact same arguments when the DMR was announced months before its availaibility. Because some people cannot wait for 6 months without becoming frantic, they finally convince themselves that this will never happen, that if it happens, it won't be good at all, that they have been lied to. And whoever says the contrary is not speaking the voice of reason but a part of this huge conspiration of the whole world to deceive them. And apparently, this includes camera makers announcing products, showing working prototypes, annoucing delays, range of lenses, publishing pictures and finally having nothing real to sell in the end. Which is of course even less probable than the big conspiration At least, it's a lot of fun. Even if slightly redundant sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted April 1, 2009 Share #26 Posted April 1, 2009 An interesting, if possibly meaningless, tidbit: in the latest issue of ProfiFoto, a German pro magazine, in the "Coming Next Month" section, the S2 is present, with the tagline "announced last Photokina, now production-ready". I wonder if they know something we don't know? The magazine will have a 20-page leaflet on the S2. I look forward to it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georg Posted April 1, 2009 Share #27 Posted April 1, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) When is the new "ProfiFoto" released? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georg Posted April 1, 2009 Share #28 Posted April 1, 2009 I just found it myself: 22nd April Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJNY Posted April 1, 2009 Share #29 Posted April 1, 2009 I'm curious if this paragraph at BJP is hinting at future sensor dimensions other than the announced 30x45, or am I reading too much into it The [Mayfair] flagship store will help launch the S2, which has a 37.5 million pixel resolution and is the first of many future models that will form part of the S system, says the company. The first device sports a 30x45mm CCD sensor, which is 56% bigger than a typical 35mm sensor. Is the mirror assembly / shutter & gate oversized to accommodate larger dimension sensors? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted April 1, 2009 Share #30 Posted April 1, 2009 Oversized compared to what? Surely the mirror just needs to be the correct size. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted April 1, 2009 Share #31 Posted April 1, 2009 Andy, I think BJNY is referencing the possibility of an eventual S3 (or whatever) with a sensor bigger than 30 x 45mm. Say, 36 x 48 or 54. His question is, is the assembly in the S2 already oversized to allow it to work with a bigger sensor without having to redesign all the parts? Sort of like - was the D300 designed so that the same shutter and mirror could be used in the D700, thus saving money for Nikon? Leica said the S2 would be the foundation for a whole system, not just one camera, which might involve different sensor formats at some point: smaller, obviously, (maybe) for the R-lens dreamers out there - but also possibly larger for a competitive edge in the future. They more or less repeated that statement in the BJP item he quotes: "....the first of many future models that will form part of the S Sytem, says the company." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJNY Posted April 1, 2009 Share #32 Posted April 1, 2009 I thought I was being clear, but thank you adan for clarifying further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfarkas Posted April 1, 2009 Share #33 Posted April 1, 2009 I doubt the sensor could be any larger. I was told that the image circle of the S-lenses will not cover 645. David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted April 2, 2009 Share #34 Posted April 2, 2009 Hi, Dave: Possibly, but 645 is practically like TWO S2 sensors side by side (56mm x 42mm). "Not covering 645" is not the same as "absolutely no bigger than 30mm x 45mm". Even if the S lenses only just cover the 30x45 sensor (54mm diagonal), the same image circle would also cover a 38mm x 38mm square sensor, which would require a larger or oversized shutter in at least one dimension. At some point we'll know the real dimensions of the S2 shutter, and BNJY's question will be answered one way or the other. I never ASSUME - ;^) - because you know how the old saw goes.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
georg Posted April 2, 2009 Share #35 Posted April 2, 2009 645 is 70% larger than the S-format and only available in one 40k$ digital back... In the new LFI you can see a CAD-picture of the S2-mirror-box. The shutter seems to have the size of the S-format. The times of crop-cameras are over, the S-System is made for 30x45mm, that's why it can work efficiently with it's sensor! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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