flkin Posted April 10, 2009 Author Share #21 Posted April 10, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) The Hexanon 60mm f1.2 was produced in 1999 and probably all in the same year as there were only 800 pieces made. By 2003, Konica had already merged with Minolta so I'd say the 60Hex is a late model to come from them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nugat Posted April 10, 2009 Share #22 Posted April 10, 2009 The Hexanon 60mm f1.2 was produced in 1999 and probably all in the same year as there were only 800 pieces made. By 2003, Konica had already merged with Minolta so I'd say the 60Hex is a late model to come from them. Mine is mid-run of the 800 and I have problems at infinity. Close is ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted April 10, 2009 Share #23 Posted April 10, 2009 Here are a few another sample pictures. I shot them with an M8 wide open. Still got the close focusing problem but switching from a Leitz to a Voigtlander type II ring helped partially with the backfocus without compromising the long distances. Go figure. All in DNG, processed by Capture One. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/76137-konica-ltm-hexanon-60mm-f12-pics/?do=findComment&comment=868304'>More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted April 10, 2009 Share #24 Posted April 10, 2009 And here is another with the 100% crop, no sharpening except the default one in Capture One. This lens is quite good wide-open but has some strange blue/green halo around the highlights. Sometimes nice, sometimes boring like an old romantic movie. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/76137-konica-ltm-hexanon-60mm-f12-pics/?do=findComment&comment=868306'>More sharing options...
flkin Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share #25 Posted April 12, 2009 Mine is mid-run of the 800 and I have problems at infinity. Close is ok. Nugat, when you say you have problems at infinity, does it show in the pics? I would have thought that at that distance, it would still be sharp wide open. If so I would prefer to be in your position than mine with back focus close up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nugat Posted April 12, 2009 Share #26 Posted April 12, 2009 Nugat, when you say you have problems at infinity, does it show in the pics? I would have thought that at that distance, it would still be sharp wide open. If so I would prefer to be in your position than mine with back focus close up. Wide open at 1.2 and ca 30-40m from an object I have problems focussing. Infinity should be Ok but it's not. Also focus bracketing doesn't help. Stopping down to 4 solves the problem. Generally it doesn't bother me as I use the lens for portraits, but would like to know what it means. I also tried it on G1 for manual focussing and this phenomenon persists. Wonder what causes it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted April 12, 2009 Share #27 Posted April 12, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just got my 60mm/1.2 and I have the same problem when focusing below 1m. Someone found a solution ? It seems that original Leitz SM to M adapter work fine but they are not that easy to find. Check with Don Goldberg @ DAG or with Sherry Krauter (Sherry Krauter.com -- Home of the Golden Touch. ). I had two KH lenses (50 and 90) and both backfosused and needed calibration for the M8. It is a known problem and can be fixed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted April 12, 2009 Share #28 Posted April 12, 2009 Check with Don Goldberg @ DAG or with Sherry Krauter (Sherry Krauter.com -- Home of the Golden Touch.***). I had two KH lenses (50 and 90) and both backfosused and needed calibration for the M8. It is a known problem and can be fixed. I did it already. I'll probably send the lens to Don Goldberg in a few weeks but he was not sure he would be able to fix it for every distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 12, 2009 Share #29 Posted April 12, 2009 I did it already. I'll probably send the lens to Don Goldberg in a few weeks but he was not sure he would be able to fix it for every distance. Pascal, I assume that must mean that the slope/shape of the sleeve which actuates the cam in the M8 body, differs slightly from Konica to Leica lenses. This focus issue is exactly why I have never bought a Konica lens, or a Konica body to use with Leica lenses. I was going to get a 60/1.2 but my local lens man said the same as Don, that he doubted he could get it to focus at all lengths. If Sean Reid is reading this thread, perhaps he could comment. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flkin Posted April 12, 2009 Author Share #30 Posted April 12, 2009 Check with Don Goldberg @ DAG or with Sherry Krauter (Sherry Krauter.com -- Home of the Golden Touch.***). I had two KH lenses (50 and 90) and both backfosused and needed calibration for the M8. It is a known problem and can be fixed. Thanks Ecaton for this useful piece of information. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted April 12, 2009 Share #31 Posted April 12, 2009 I assume that must mean that the slope/shape of the sleeve which actuates the cam in the M8 body, differs slightly from Konica to Leica lenses. This focus issue is exactly why I have never bought a Konica lens, or a Konica body to use with Leica lenses. Well, I had no problem with a Konica 50mm/2 and I once checked extensively the focus of the Hexar RF with my Leica lenses and it was ok. So I do not know if the problem is with all Konica lenses or not. It seems to occur sometimes even with Leica lenses. I was going to get a 60/1.2 but my local lens man said the same as Don, that he doubted he could get it to focus at all lengths. My local men said the same, that it was difficult to adjust except for the factory. He also gave me the name of a local expert in Paris who used to work for the Konica local service department so I'll ask for his opinion before sending the lens to Don. Even if the lens cannot be focused precisely at every distance, I'd rather have it to be precise around 2 meters than at infinity because I used it mainly as for portrait. As soon as the subject is more than a few meters away, I'd rather use the Summicron. But I wonder if I should not sell both and get the 50/1.4 ASPH. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 12, 2009 Share #32 Posted April 12, 2009 Well, I had no problem with a Konica 50mm/2 and I once checked extensively the focus of the Hexar RF with my Leica lenses and it was ok.So I do not know if the problem is with all Konica lenses or not. It seems to occur sometimes even with Leica lenses. Pascal, For the f2 and other slower Konica lenses, the variations from Leica spec may be within the DOF, so you would not see any problems. However with the DOF of a gnat's whisker of the 60/1.2, the variations from Leica spec may be significant. It used to be said that the Leica Summilux 50's had problems focusing on that lovely Konica Hexar RF body. I was always interested in getting one with its motor drive, since I am unable to use a lever wind. I ended up getting a Contax G instead - a lovely camera spoilt by auto-focus. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
footnoteblog Posted April 12, 2009 Share #33 Posted April 12, 2009 Wow. Just checked the prices on these, and... I'm stunned. Unless I'm missing something, someone could pick up a decent 50mm Summilux and have money left over for a stay in on a tropical island somewhere? If any of you doctors and dentists would like to donate money to my continuing education, I won't mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted April 13, 2009 Share #34 Posted April 13, 2009 Wow. Just checked the prices on these, and... I'm stunned. Unless I'm missing something, someone could pick up a decent 50mm Summilux and have money left over for a stay in on a tropical island somewhere? If any of you doctors and dentists would like to donate money to my continuing education, I won't mind 1) you are missing something. For instance, that a Konica 50mm or 60mm/1.2 does not cost more than a 50mm/1.4 ASPH for instance. 2) your remark about doctors and dentists is inappropriate, even with a smiley. We heard it some many times. Can you think of something more original to express your frustration and jealousy ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
footnoteblog Posted April 13, 2009 Share #35 Posted April 13, 2009 Whoa, there; patronize much, dad? I'm just ribbing; no need to get your panties in a bunch. I checked the eBay prices and I swear the Summiluxes were going cheaper. Why would you assume I'm frustrated and jealous? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
yanidel Posted July 25, 2010 Share #36 Posted July 25, 2010 According to a the tests of a book that I mentionned in another thread, the 60mm Hexanon is the sharpest of all M lenses at F1.4. Here is an example taken an hour ago as Lance Armstrong was doing a tour of honour on Les Champs-Elysées to celebrate his last Tour de France. Unluckily, my longest focal was my 60mm Hexanon but I still went for it betting on a good crop. First the uncropped image, then the 1:1. I guess he noticed my Leica Edit : taken with M9, I did not realize this was in the M8 section. Anyways, I guess it also shows the benefits of having 18mpx even though I hate cropping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted July 25, 2010 Share #37 Posted July 25, 2010 Anyways, I guess it also shows the benefits of having 18mpx even though I hate cropping. No need to crop it (other than demonstrate the sharpness) - the uncropped version is rather more interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootinglulu Posted July 25, 2010 Share #38 Posted July 25, 2010 Yanick, that is a wonderful shot, wide and cropped. fantastic to get that shot of lance Armstrong, so focussed on your leica!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdemas Posted July 28, 2010 Share #39 Posted July 28, 2010 Yanick- As always very nice. I enjoyed watching Lance's last ride, though the Tour Gods were not with him this time. I really enjoy your use of the 60mm (I view your blog quite often) and it's characteristics. To all those that use the 60mm... do you find that the 50/1.2 Hexanon renders in a similar fashion? I've been a bit tempted to snag one to potentially replace the Noctilux I may be selling. Thanks in advance for any thoughts... very interesting thread. Kent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 28, 2010 Share #40 Posted July 28, 2010 I see that some optimist in Japan on eBay is trying to sell one for £8,357! Good luck. I can just seem someone paying more than the new price of a Noctilux for one of these. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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