miami91 Posted January 30, 2009 Share #21 Posted January 30, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I wonder if somebody will be sending in a photograph of their D-Lux 4 "wearing" a 25mm Voigtlander viewfinder... though I hear that one is too wide for the flash to pop-up Here's some shots (a few different angles) of my D-Lux 4 with Voigtlander 25mm finder. This is a temporary solution --- I am definitely going to get the Leica 24mm finder (the metal one that is marketed with the new Summilux). I don't like the size of the CV finder, the framelines, or the plastic casing. But it's certainly better than nothing -- and I already had it since I own the CV 25mm lens for my M7. Jeff. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/72851-availability-d-lux-4-handgrip-and-viewfinder/?do=findComment&comment=794649'>More sharing options...
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miami91 Posted January 30, 2009 Share #22 Posted January 30, 2009 It's got quite a nifty design. You can use a coin, but there is also a ridged wheel that controls the attachment screw (the slot for the coin is in this wheel). I find it can be hand tightened quite sufficiently using the wheel, so the coin slot (which would really give you leverage) is unnecessary. Jeff. Thought I'd attach an image of the bottom of the grip to illustrate what I tried to describe. I've found hand tightening the wheel is more than adequate --- coin not needed. PS: Sorry for the grit on the bottom of the camera --- didn't bother to wipe it down before taking this quick snap. Jeff. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/72851-availability-d-lux-4-handgrip-and-viewfinder/?do=findComment&comment=794650'>More sharing options...
mhoutman Posted January 30, 2009 Author Share #23 Posted January 30, 2009 Here's some shots (a few different angles) of my D-Lux 4 with Voigtlander 25mm finder. This is a temporary solution --- I am definitely going to get the Leica 24mm finder (the metal one that is marketed with the new Summilux). I don't like the size of the CV finder, the framelines, or the plastic casing. But it's certainly better than nothing -- and I already had it since I own the CV 25mm lens for my M7. Jeff. i have the same grip but have the leica 24m viewfinder. it is okay but remains a cheap piece of plastic. however it does allow pop-up of the flash. the voightlander doesn't seem to do so but does the m- summilux viewfinder do ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted January 30, 2009 Share #24 Posted January 30, 2009 i have the same grip but have the leica 24m viewfinder. it is okay but remains a cheap piece of plastic. however it does allow pop-up of the flash. the voightlander doesn't seem to do so but does the m- summilux viewfinder do ? I don't know for certain, but in pictures the M Summilux viewer appears slimmer than the D-Lux viewer -- the metal frame appears slimmer than the plastic. This is a secondary concern for me personally as I'm yet to use the pop up flash. Mostly I just want a high quality eyepiece with a high quality fit and finish, and it seems likely to fit the bill in that regard. Best, Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo035 Posted January 31, 2009 Share #25 Posted January 31, 2009 as those of us who have been familiar with Leica for some time may well be aware, there are two Leica 24mm viewfinders, as far as I am aware -12019 (intended for the Summilux no doubt) and 18696, for the D-Lux 4. I have only looked at Ffordes for the respective prices which are £499 and £199 respectively. (Surely £499 must be a misprint !), As might be expected published prices vary. So "tis best to shop around. Having spent the best part of £500 for a DL4 ... a Voigtlander V25B for £132 (at Robert White's) is all I can afford right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo035 Posted January 31, 2009 Share #26 Posted January 31, 2009 a quick check "over the pond" found West Coast cameras selling them for $749 and $329 respectively, so no misprint on Ffordes price list. Phew ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crodge Posted February 11, 2009 Share #27 Posted February 11, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am looking to get the Lumix vf when i purchase my DL4 but after reading this thread i am having second thoughts: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/69090-my-dlux-4-has-arrived-lumix.html Can anyone confirm that the Lumix finder only shws about 70% of the actual frame...It seems odd to me as it should be 24mm. Thanks Chris Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski542002 Posted February 11, 2009 Share #28 Posted February 11, 2009 Hello: I got tired of looking for a finder. Purchased a Voightlander 21mm finder from B&H for about $160. The 21mm finder is a close enough match the 24mm view on the camera's screen. The finder blocks the flash, but I don't use the flash, so not an issue. CD Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/72851-availability-d-lux-4-handgrip-and-viewfinder/?do=findComment&comment=806118'>More sharing options...
Guest farbtupfer Posted February 11, 2009 Share #29 Posted February 11, 2009 Buy the viewfinder for the Panasonic LX-3,only half the price and in metal case too. Yes but the quality of the Panasonic is also half. I have compared both but the Leica viewfinder is much better... Photo made with a C-Lux3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m6goesch Posted February 11, 2009 Share #30 Posted February 11, 2009 Yes but the quality of the Panasonic is also half. I have compared both but the Leica viewfinder is much better... Yeah true! Optics are the same as in the much more expensive 24mm M finder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted February 11, 2009 Share #31 Posted February 11, 2009 Yeah true! Optics are the same as in the much more expensive 24mm M finder. I would be surprised if this were precisely true. I believe the Leica finders are arguably better than the Panasonic versions (bright, sharp, and contrasty viewfinders are a Leica specialty after all), and the one made for the D-Lux 4 may very well be of comparable optical quality to the metal M finder. But the M finder, for example, includes crop lines for the M8 --- so crop lines for an approximately 32mm FOV. Can't imagine this would have been replicated for the D-Lux 4 --- what would be the point of 32mm framelines on the D-Lux 4 viewfinder? So not to be pedantic, but assuming the D-Lux 4 viewfinder only has the one set of framelines, or provides a second set at a focal length other than 32mm, the two Leica finders are *not* the same. Again, this doens't mean they aren't of comparable quality, although I'm sure there will be speculation that the extra $400.00 for the metal viewfinder may be getting the purchaser something besides a metal case and leather carry pouch... Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA road racer Posted February 12, 2009 Share #32 Posted February 12, 2009 I have found a Voigtlander viewfinder that has BOTH 28MM & 35MM bright lines in it. Also has a .5 magnification factor. Black or silver metal. $199 USD !! It will work with the flash. Need to find more options. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m6goesch Posted February 12, 2009 Share #33 Posted February 12, 2009 But the M finder, for example, includes crop lines for the M8 --- so crop lines for an approximately 32mm FOV. Can't imagine this would have been replicated for the D-Lux 4 --- what would be the point of 32mm framelines on the D-Lux 4 viewfinder? Yeah but actually the D-Lux finder has framelines for 35mm too (might be 32, dunno) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted February 12, 2009 Share #34 Posted February 12, 2009 Yeah but actually the D-Lux finder has framelines for 35mm too (might be 32, dunno) 35 would be much more useful! If it did turn out to be 32mm, that would actually lend a whole lot of credence to our speculation about the two Leica finders being identical. Anyway, doesn't really matter --- if you're happy with it, that's what counts! I just know how much people love to speculate about the differences, if any, between the LX3 and D-Lux 4, Panasonic finder and Leica finder, etc. So it occurred to me that we might also have speculation about differences between the two 24mm Leica finders. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk60091 Posted February 12, 2009 Share #35 Posted February 12, 2009 I have found a Voigtlander viewfinder that has BOTH 28MM & 35MM bright lines in it. Also has a .5 magnification factor. Black or silver metal. $199 USD !! It will work with the flash. Need to find more options. do u mind providing an url Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted February 12, 2009 Share #36 Posted February 12, 2009 do u mind providing an url I'm sure you can buy it from Stephen Gandy --- he carries more CV product than anyone else in the USA. If you're not in the USA, that may not be so helpful... CameraQuest Home I guess I'm still suspicious of how useful any viewfinder that isn't 24mm would be. Since the camera doesn't display focal length on the LCD, you only know for sure where you are when you're at either extreme (24mm or 60mm). Anything else is just guesswork. So how are people doing this? Through experimentation? (ie, two presses of the zoom lever has you at about 35mm, or something?). Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
USA road racer Posted February 12, 2009 Share #37 Posted February 12, 2009 Hey thanks, you beat me to it! I think B&H may a;so carry this. But a question for owners of the Panasonic viewfinder ~ does it have bright lines and how many? It has been stated that the Leica version has bright lines for 24mm AND 35mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted February 12, 2009 Share #38 Posted February 12, 2009 I guess I'm still suspicious of how useful any viewfinder that isn't 24mm would be. Since the camera doesn't display focal length on the LCD, you only know for sure where you are when you're at either extreme (24mm or 60mm). Anything else is just guesswork. So how are people doing this? Through experimentation? (ie, two presses of the zoom lever has you at about 35mm, or something?). Jeff. As I mentioned briefly in another thread http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/77434-d-lux-4-caps-sbooi.html, at the weekend I bought a SBOOI 5cm finder. This works well at the 60mm end of things, where I prefer to shoot. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted February 12, 2009 Share #39 Posted February 12, 2009 As I mentioned briefly in another thread http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/digital-forum/77434-d-lux-4-caps-sbooi.html, at the weekend I bought a SBOOI 5cm finder. This works well at the 60mm end of things, where I prefer to shoot. Regards, Bill Your solution looks nice Bill, and certainly fits with my perception that the only useful viewfinders would be 24mm or 60mm. Now if Leica would make a firmware update that showed focal length (preferably in 35mm terms to avoid maths) in the LCD, one of those CV combo viewfinders would be really useful. But absent that, it seems too speculative to me. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted February 12, 2009 Share #40 Posted February 12, 2009 Your solution looks nice Bill, and certainly fits with my perception that the only useful viewfinders would be 24mm or 60mm. Now if Leica would make a firmware update that showed focal length (preferably in 35mm terms to avoid maths) in the LCD, one of those CV combo viewfinders would be really useful. But absent that, it seems too speculative to me. Jeff. I couldn't agree more. I experimented with one of those Helios viewfinders before buying the SBOOI - it didn't match up comfortably with anything. I'd even welcome a firmware change that enabled stepped zooming, with the lens pausing briefly at 28-35-50mm "settings". Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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