cfc247 Posted November 19, 2008 Share #1 Posted November 19, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just noticed that the image count on my recently purchased Digilux 2 is 30, 090. How many images does this camera take on average before it breaks down? Does anyone have more mileage history on these? The body is immaculate, I'm just wondering how long I have before I need to replace it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 19, 2008 Posted November 19, 2008 Hi cfc247, Take a look here Digilux 2 shutter life. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Overgaard Posted November 19, 2008 Share #2 Posted November 19, 2008 One of min is at L1410380, another is at L1350851 which make me wonder what the starting no is. Anyways, I wouldn't be worried about the shutter. At least I haven't heard of any failure, and certainly not a series of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thawley Posted November 19, 2008 Share #3 Posted November 19, 2008 One of min is at L1410380, another is at L1350851 which make me wonder what the starting no is. Anyways, I wouldn't be worried about the shutter. At least I haven't heard of any failure, and certainly not a series of them. Unless there is an actual count of actuation's,, I don't think image count can be used as a determining factor. If you use more than one card and don't use the feature of resetting to 0, I believe it will pick up the number from the card. At least I know my Canon's do. I rename my files on import, so I don't really see an "L" file name. Lastly, considering how silent this shutter is, if noise = friction, this shutter doesn't appear to be getting any wear from friction. JT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chouhsin Posted November 19, 2008 Share #4 Posted November 19, 2008 Is it important to know when the shutter will break down and worry about it every day? It's like our lifes, just go out and enjoy every bit of it! Best, Hsin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfc247 Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share #5 Posted November 19, 2008 John, I think you are right. I noticed that an image on the card from a week ago was counting 100155, but then it jumped to 1031... Like the Canon and other digital cams, I don't think the counter is a reliable means to judge. The EXIF data doesn't seem to show it either, unlike my Nikon D200. I can see why people like yourself and Thorsten pick up several of these. Hopefully by the time mine dies Leica would have a nice upgrade to the D2 in the market. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audidudi Posted November 19, 2008 Share #6 Posted November 19, 2008 One of min is at L1410380, another is at L1350851 which make me wonder what the starting no is. The starting number is L100XXXX and it will increment by one unless/until it's reset. However, because it can be reset, it's not a reliable indicator of how many times the shutter has been fired and really only serves to provide you with a minimum number. That said, I do seem to recall reading in the LC1 service manual that the camera does keep count of this and there is a procedure by which one can access the diagnostics menu by pushing some particular combination of buttons, etc. Unfortunately, the .pdf file is on another computer and I don't have access to it at the moment, so I can't verify this just yet... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thawley Posted November 19, 2008 Share #7 Posted November 19, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) The starting number is L100XXXX and it will increment by one unless/until it's reset. However, because it can be reset, it's not a reliable indicator of how many times the shutter has been fired and really only serves to provide you with a minimum number. That said, I do seem to recall reading in the LC1 service manual that the camera does keep count of this and there is a procedure by which one can access the diagnostics menu by pushing some particular combination of buttons, etc. Unfortunately, the .pdf file is on another computer and I don't have access to it at the moment, so I can't verify this just yet... Interesting how all of the Panasonic menu displays are considerably different than the Digilux 2. I also noticed on the menu screens THERE IS IN FACT a command for OIS mode (image stabilization). I'm wondering if these are accurate screen shots? Panasonic Lumix DMC-L1 Review: 9. Menus: Digital Photography Review Has anyone ever attempted to install DMC LC1 Firmware on a Digilux 2? JT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thawley Posted November 19, 2008 Share #8 Posted November 19, 2008 Interesting how all of the Panasonic menu displays are considerably different than the Digilux 2. I also noticed on the menu screens THERE IS IN FACT a command for OIS mode (image stabilization). I'm wondering if these are accurate screen shots? Panasonic Lumix DMC-L1 Review: 9. Menus: Digital Photography Review Has anyone ever attempted to install DMC LC1 Firmware on a Digilux 2? JT Ok.. further investigation indicates DP Review's review is of the Panasonic DMC L1. They are the same as what was on my Digilux 3. I also notice they are listing that camera (L1) as DISCONTINUED. Steves Digicams has the Panasonic's display images in his review that are the same as the Digilux 2. I thought I was losing it for a minute there... JT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audidudi Posted November 19, 2008 Share #9 Posted November 19, 2008 Has anyone ever attempted to install DMC LC1 Firmware on a Digilux 2? I keep threatening to do this the easy way (by swapping the main circuit boards between the cameras) but haven't managed to do so yet. I'm thinking I may try it again over the upcoming holiday ... we'll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted November 19, 2008 Share #10 Posted November 19, 2008 Does the Digilux 2 have a shutter, in the conventional sense of the word? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audidudi Posted November 19, 2008 Share #11 Posted November 19, 2008 Does the Digilux 2 have a shutter, in the conventional sense of the word? It depends upon what you mean by "conventional." The D2's aperture blades do double-duty and also function as the shutter... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted November 19, 2008 Share #12 Posted November 19, 2008 It depends upon what you mean by "conventional." The D2's aperture blades do double-duty and also function as the shutter... Like a Compur "in the lens" shutter, as in my Speed Graphic? So, you can look into the lens and see it working? I didn't know that. Whatever, it's got to be the quietest shutter I've never heard; I was quite alarmed when I heard the clockwork thing in the M8 (and you've got to wind it up). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audidudi Posted November 19, 2008 Share #13 Posted November 19, 2008 Like a Compur "in the lens" shutter, as in my Speed Graphic? So, you can look into the lens and see it working? I didn't know that. It's almost (but not exactly) the same as your Compur shutter, because the Compur, like most other leaf-type shutters, has two sets of blades inside it. One set of blades defines the size of the aperture and the other set acts as the equivalent to the curtain of a conventional shutter. The D2, however, gets by with just one set of blades by making them do double-duty. This is also true for most P&S digicams, which is why they are able to synch with flash at all shutter speeds. This was also common on a lot of the compact 35mm rangefinder cameras that sold by the millions in the early to mid '70s. And Yes, if you look at it just right, you can watch the aperture blades move inside the lens as they open and close. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
richam Posted November 20, 2008 Share #14 Posted November 20, 2008 I just noticed that the image count on my recently purchased Digilux 2 is 30, 090. How many images does this camera take on average before it breaks down? Does anyone have more mileage history on these? The body is immaculate, I'm just wondering how long I have before I need to replace it. Back to the original question, the component that has a reputation for breaking down on this camera is the sensor. Failure rates on these electronic components are exponential, or random, and do not depend on the number of images taken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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