andybarton Posted January 2, 2009 Share #41 Posted January 2, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) And you are happy with this? Yes I shoot with a UV filter. Having lost my 19, I'm not prepared to risk fromt elements again The shop scan looks like the saturation has been cranked up to 11, and the sharpening beyond that. The red hull is better in my scan, from my memory, btw. I will see if I can fond another reference shot of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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abrewer Posted January 2, 2009 Share #42 Posted January 2, 2009 And you are happy with this? Reasonably so I mean, it has the saturation I like and absolutely no grain... What do you think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 2, 2009 Share #43 Posted January 2, 2009 Not for me It's so saturated it's completely un-natural. Liverpool just doesn't look like that, especially in December. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted January 2, 2009 Share #44 Posted January 2, 2009 Okay, here's an ad image from Kodak's site: What I shot last fall was more similar to these ad images than the images I see above FWIW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abrewer Posted January 2, 2009 Share #45 Posted January 2, 2009 Not for me It's so saturated it's completely un-natural. Liverpool just doesn't look like that, especially in December. Well, you know better than I I'm scratching my head trying to figure out why there's such a difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 2, 2009 Share #46 Posted January 2, 2009 Not for me It's so saturated it's completely un-natural. Liverpool just doesn't look like that, especially in December. those ad shots are so completely different, that it's as if it's a different film Maybe the answer is to have some processed by a different place. I don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted January 2, 2009 Share #47 Posted January 2, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not for me It's so saturated it's completely un-natural. Liverpool just doesn't look like that, especially in December. I agree with Andy. In the photo attached, red and especially purple and magenta were strongly desaturated in Lightroom. It's ca. a 50%-crop; 50-mm Elmar, no filters. Scanned with vuescan. What i got out of the shop had even stronger magenta on the red car's front cover, and the street had complete unnatural blue-cyan drift. The photos of the shopping mall shown above seems to have similar oversaturation and drifts. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/68430-kodak-ektar-100/?do=findComment&comment=764492'>More sharing options...
abrewer Posted January 2, 2009 Share #48 Posted January 2, 2009 This is what I got when I shot last fall, and it looks like a completely different film: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The film was developed on a Kodak processor to a photo CD, and (unlike I usually do) it has no manipulation in PS whatsoever other than the frame Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The film was developed on a Kodak processor to a photo CD, and (unlike I usually do) it has no manipulation in PS whatsoever other than the frame ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/68430-kodak-ektar-100/?do=findComment&comment=764501'>More sharing options...
abrewer Posted January 2, 2009 Share #49 Posted January 2, 2009 I agree with Andy. In the photo attached, red and especially purple and magenta were strongly desaturated in Lightroom. It's ca. a 50%-crop; 50-mm Elmar, no filters. Scanned with vuescan. What i got out of the shop had even stronger magenta on the red car's front cover, and the street had complete unnatural blue-cyan drift. The photos of the shopping mall shown above seems to have similar oversaturation and drifts. Not a criticism of you personally but that pic's color palette is pretty gruesome Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted January 2, 2009 Share #50 Posted January 2, 2009 This is what I got when I shot last fall, and it looks like a completely different film... Those are nice colors Allan --- hope I get similar results. Just received several boxes of Ektar in the post from B&H a few days ago, but have yet to load it in either of my M7s. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted January 2, 2009 Share #51 Posted January 2, 2009 Not a criticism of you personally but that pic's color palette is pretty gruesome That's exactly what i think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 2, 2009 Share #52 Posted January 2, 2009 Seems to me that if you can't find a Kodak processor and scanner, all bets are off... Anyone have any success scanning this at home? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjr1970 Posted January 3, 2009 Share #53 Posted January 3, 2009 Hi Andy, Yesterday I got my prints back of the Kodak Ektar 100 of the Dickens festival scenes. I am really impressed by those prints. It wasn't satified by those scans of the Noritsu koki 32-33. The employee mentioned it not to scan these negatives by any commercial processor. He also mentioned that films with saturated colors aren't easy to scan. I'll just wait for the scan results of the Hasselbald X1. I'll keep you informed. Cheers, Ronald Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted January 3, 2009 Share #54 Posted January 3, 2009 I agree with Andy. In the photo attached, red and especially purple and magenta were strongly desaturated in Lightroom. It's ca. a 50%-crop; 50-mm Elmar, no filters. Scanned with vuescan. What i got out of the shop had even stronger magenta on the red car's front cover, and the street had complete unnatural blue-cyan drift. . Judging by the shadow length in your street shot you had some colour temperature that was well off "semi cloud at noon" it may be that this film is very sensitive to colour temp variations. The glass roof shopping mall with added artificial light is going to be a bit weird in temp and in variation. One thing we can conclude is that this is not a neutral rendering film Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted January 6, 2009 Share #55 Posted January 6, 2009 Right, film with sad test shots is back. I did run a bracket from 2 under to 2 over in soft lighting and you would be pushed to select the paper prints as to which was which. I can because I varied f stop which is more accurate than speed. I haven't troubled to measure densities but you can see the negatives run as a nice series so in flat light it has good latitude and held colour balance. I took a brick wall, I know how sad, in the flat light using the M6 with 50mm Zeiss Planar and shot again with the M8 using the 35mm Zeiss Planar to match but not exactly using a grey card in the shot. these are as shot in CS3 with only the colour balanced in the second M8 shot (RHS). The film is from a commercial scan (KIS lab nearly new installation so should be in spec) my scanner is O/S. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/68430-kodak-ektar-100/?do=findComment&comment=768668'>More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted January 6, 2009 Share #56 Posted January 6, 2009 Moving on to real life. First shot on Hasselblad P20 back 120mm Zeiss Planar CFi as shot 7600 Second balanced in C1 to 5650 Third Leica M8 as shot 6750 Last Ektar No other adjustments to any shot. Doesn't take kindly to more contrast. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/68430-kodak-ektar-100/?do=findComment&comment=768679'>More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 6, 2009 Share #57 Posted January 6, 2009 Thanks for this Chris. I can't work out which of the wall shots is the film from your description. On my screen I get two in one row, then a third below. (There is a link to how to upload multiple shots so that you can ad a description to each individual shot on the forum here Leica User Forum - Ankündigungen im Forum : Photo Forum) The last shot of the canal is the film shot, I take it. This shows the high contrast and hot tones of the film very well, I would say, and is the least natural looking of the three, IMO. Should the M8 shot not be white balanced to the same as the Hassy shot for comparison purposes? Not to my taste at all, and thanks for confirming this! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted January 6, 2009 Share #58 Posted January 6, 2009 Final set just for colour fun. Again M8 35mm planar, M6 50mm planar no tampering. Interesting how he middle green is different and the blue near the head is more accurately purple as in the M8 (with filter) lens not coded. The Ektar shows the feet and body as shades of blue where the M8 clearly sees, correctly, different colours. Last frame is the Hasselblad with C1 no fiddles this is accurate colour the red tongue is correct M8 is wrong here Ektar is plain lipstick but accurate is not always "best". Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/68430-kodak-ektar-100/?do=findComment&comment=768693'>More sharing options...
moikle Posted January 6, 2009 Share #59 Posted January 6, 2009 Perhaps Kodak are trying to kill their film business off. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 6, 2009 Share #60 Posted January 6, 2009 This'll do it... They used to make some great C41 colour films. How hard would it be to just, erm, make them again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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