alw Posted October 21, 2008 Share #1 Posted October 21, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi all, I´m about to purchase a second-hand M6 but am a bit puzzled by the variations with viewfinder magnifications. I will most likely to be using a 50mm lens, maybe a 28mm as well. Which magnification would suit me best? Oh, and I wear glasses. Cheers, Ville Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marke Posted October 21, 2008 Share #2 Posted October 21, 2008 Viile, I wear glasses too, and I originally got an M6TTL with 0.58x VF, since I like shooting a 35mm lens. I also got an MP with 0.72x VF later on, because I discovered (by using the add-on 1.25x Leica VF magnifier) that when shooting a 50mm lens, I prefer a higher magnification. It's just easier to focus. I even use the MP (0.72x) with the 35mm lens now. I just can't get a view outside the brighlines, but that's the only disadvantage. A lot depends on how close you can bring your eye to the VF while wearing your glasses, and that's determined a lot by the design of your glasses. However, because you want to use a 28mm, I would suggest a 0.58x VF. BTW, that M6 you're looking at must be a TTL version, right? I don't believe Leica made the original (classic) M6 with anything but the standard 0.72x VF. Hope I was of some help. Hi all,I´m about to purchase a second-hand M6 but am a bit puzzled by the variations with viewfinder magnifications. I will most likely to be using a 50mm lens, maybe a 28mm as well. Which magnification would suit me best? Oh, and I wear glasses. Cheers, Ville Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
budrichard Posted October 21, 2008 Share #3 Posted October 21, 2008 "I don't believe Leica made the original (classic) M6 with anything but the standard 0.72x VF." About 3000 were made with the 0.85 finder. I have one and they are not that hard to find.-Dick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted October 21, 2008 Share #4 Posted October 21, 2008 I don't believe Leica made the original (classic) M6 with anything but the standard 0.72x VF. There were a few .85 'classic' M6s near the end of production, never a .58. The vast majority were .72. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alw Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share #5 Posted October 21, 2008 The most important thing to me would be to get the 50mm frames as large as possible; to get an SLR feeling of shooting what you see. I guess that would mean getting 0.85 magnification which would also make shooting 28mm quite interesting? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted October 21, 2008 Share #6 Posted October 21, 2008 There are no 28mm framelines in the .85 bodies. I'd go for a .72, Being able to see around the 50mm framelines is actually very useful to many of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marke Posted October 21, 2008 Share #7 Posted October 21, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) There were a few .85 'classic' M6s near the end of production, never a .58. The vast majority were .72. Oops, sorry! You are corect, sir. Being an eyeglass wearer, I always forget about that 0.85x version. Actually, I'm just jealous I can't use one. Hmmm...actually when I slap my 1.25x magnifier on the 0.72x MP, it doesn't give me a problem when shooting with a 50mm lens. Maybe I should consider a 0.85x after all. Thanks alot, stunsworth...I thought I was over my GAS! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alw Posted October 21, 2008 Author Share #8 Posted October 21, 2008 There are no 28mm framelines in the .85 bodies.. Oooops....that would rule .85 out definitely, thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoskeptic Posted October 21, 2008 Share #9 Posted October 21, 2008 After shooting an M4 and M6 TTL .85, I settled on the M3 as my main shooter for the .90 magnification, those gorgeous framelines and no flaring! But, yes, I have a dedicated 50 cron on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted October 22, 2008 Share #10 Posted October 22, 2008 I have an M7 .85 and use it with 28mm, taking the whole of the viewfinder as the frame. It works. It's the best option for 50mm and above. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guywalder Posted October 22, 2008 Share #11 Posted October 22, 2008 I have an M7 .85 and use it with 28mm, taking the whole of the viewfinder as the frame. It works. It's the best option for 50mm and above. Regards, Bill I guess you dont wear glasses? I cant see the whole of the frame of my 0.72, I also cant see all of the 28mm frame lines although I do occasionally use that combination. IMHO the whole rangefinder concept works great with 1 focal length, when the framelines nearly fill the VF, I am lucky that I mostly use a 35mm lens, and that is the optimum viewfinder configuration for me (with glasses and 0.72 VF) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted October 22, 2008 Share #12 Posted October 22, 2008 I guess you dont wear glasses? You guess wrong... Actually, and I am not being funny, I think it has as much to do with the type and design of spectacles you wear and the "configuration" of your face as it does with whether or not you wear them per se. Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guywalder Posted October 22, 2008 Share #13 Posted October 22, 2008 the "configuration" of your face in the words of Monty Python, oo are you callin Big Nose!?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted October 22, 2008 Share #14 Posted October 22, 2008 Oooops....that would rule .85 out definitely, thanks! It is not impoosible to use 28-mm-lenses with the 0.85-viewfinder, for the viewfinder's outward frame is almost the right frame for 28-mm. But with glasses this is no comforatable view at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted October 22, 2008 Share #15 Posted October 22, 2008 in the words of Monty Python, oo are you callin Big Nose!?? Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent M10 Posted October 22, 2008 Share #16 Posted October 22, 2008 With the .85, how much room do the 50mm framelines take up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_n Posted October 22, 2008 Share #17 Posted October 22, 2008 The most important thing to me would be to get the 50mm frames as large as possible; to get an SLR feeling of shooting what you see. IMHO the whole rangefinder concept works great with 1 focal length, when the framelines nearly fill the VFTo my mind this line of thinking removes two of the major advantages of using a rangefinder. First, once you visualize a composition it is easier to find that composition through a rangefinder VF because you can see both inside and outside the framelines unlike an SLR. Second, because you can see the frame in the context of what is happening around it, you can anticipate what will happen next and act accordingly. With a 50mm lens on a 0.72x body providing you with decent space outside the frame, you have subject, composition, context and action in full view without removing your eye from the VF. To me that's what a rangefinder is all about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guywalder Posted October 22, 2008 Share #18 Posted October 22, 2008 To me that's what a rangefinder is all about. each to their own, I find opening my left eye achieves the same, whether I am using an RF or SLR. Not much use if you are using a 500mm lens, but thats not what RFs are all about anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pleeson Posted October 22, 2008 Share #19 Posted October 22, 2008 Hi all,I´m about to purchase a second-hand M6 but am a bit puzzled by the variations with viewfinder magnifications. I will most likely to be using a 50mm lens, maybe a 28mm as well. Which magnification would suit me best? Oh, and I wear glasses. Cheers, Ville Don't buy anything until you can try it yourself. As you see from the widely variant opinions, no hard and fast answers are possible. For me, with a .72 M6TTL, I can't even begin to see the 28mm framelines. 35mm is just about the maximum visible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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