Leica M4-P ?

[kenneth]

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I'm a black amateur. And proud of it.

 

In Kenneth's poll land

 

 

 

See photo above, taken in Scarborough Only kidding, Kenneth!

 

The photo above that you mention was taken by my wife on her Nikon Digital camera and as a case in point. My wife would happily tell you that see is a photographic philistine that is until digital can along. Now she gets some half decent results which shows that digital photography is cheating really and it makes rank amateurs decent picture takers as countless websites prove

[andybarton]

it makes rank amateurs decent picture takers as countless websites prove

 

Thanks for your kind comments on my website, btw

[kenneth]

Think again... just for your want to use...given a certain lens, chromes take ALWAYS better pics !!!

 

I am not sure about that Luigi, but you could be right. If so there will be alot of second hand black Leica lenses coming onto the marketplace.

[ndjambrose]

...I think of the black M's as "pretty boys", and as such attract more attention. They also look newer. The chromes otoh, look older, less pretentious and are less likely to get into trouble....

 

Funny old world.I would have said the exact same thing swapping the word 'black' for 'chrome'.

[kenneth]

Thanks for your kind comments on my website, btw

 

You will quite understand if I don't comment to this as I am already on a yellow card

[john_newell]

I had a brass/chrome regular production model. It was nice, but nothing special, either good or bad, except that the 75mm corners were so small as to be unusable for me. You may feel differently, but I would try before you buy.

 

I have only looked at prices casually, but my impression has been that the silver chrome M4-P bodies sell at a substantial premium to the black bodies.

[kenneth]

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I had a brass/chrome regular production model. It was nice, but nothing special, either good or bad, except that the 75mm corners were so small as to be unusable for me. You may feel differently, but I would try before you buy.

 

I have only looked at prices casually, but my impression has been that the silver chrome M4-P bodies sell at a substantial premium to the black bodies.

 

Thanks John, it's funny, this whole chrome black thing but I guess we all like a choice and I have just remembered, I had a black R3 MOT. Parted with that fairly soon so I guess I am nothing if not consistent.

 

I also hear what you are saying about 75mm corners. So maybe I go back to my first choice, a chrome M2 with a Voigtlander 75mm clip on rangefinder

[JBA]

I also hear what you are saying about 75mm corners. So maybe I go back to my first choice, a chrome M2 with a Voigtlander 75mm clip on rangefinder

 

As one of the black camera gang, if I were going to get a chrome camera, the M2 would be it.

 

Does Voigtlaender make an actual clip-on rangefinder, or did you mean viewfinder? Curious, because a rangefinder-coupled external finder would be a very useful thing indeed. Does such a thing exist?

[john_newell]

I bought that M4-P in '84 or '85 when they were first introduced. The thing that "made me do it" was the chance to buy a new Leica M in silver chrome. I had an M3 at the time (still have that one, btw). I really liked the chrome...I later added a silver chrome M6. Right now, though, my two users are both black M6s. For whatever reason, it doesn't matter much anymore! Even the brass M4-P didn't look quite the same, and the zinc tops on the later bodies don't look at all the same - to me...YMMV!