sdai Posted October 5, 2006 Share #61 Posted October 5, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I tend not to code the lenses 'cause there's a potential risk ... suppose Leica comes up with a FF digital rangefinder in the not so distant future, shall we re-code the lenses? What if Zeiss, Cosina, or Epson come up with their digital rangefinder too? I'm sure they won't recognize the Leica code and there's possibility that they'll ome up with their own code ... so your luxes, crons, noctis will have double code ... one set in white and the other in black And there're so many Photoshop plugins, raw converters etc having the built in function to map out vignetting so the only advantage of the 6-bit code would be the capability to write the EXIF data into the file ... who cares about that? not me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 5, 2006 Posted October 5, 2006 Hi sdai, Take a look here Dear Leica: WHEN will we see M8 images?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Guest guy_mancuso Posted October 5, 2006 Share #62 Posted October 5, 2006 Simon there is a flash reason. i just wrote this on anothere thread Sean may correct me here but you will be able to use TTL now with the M8 and the coding will also zoom the flash for like the Metz 54. The DMR does not have the TTL function but the Rom will zoom the flash. So if flash is important than you can do what i did either have coded lens or have them coded in the flash zone lenses. For me the 28,35 and 50 i made sure I have the Rom on the DMR because those are my most used lenses for using flash for events. Now having said all that is TTL better than just using A mode on the flash ? Yes , No and maybe depends on the scene. I do very well on A mode and don't really miss TTL coming from my Canon and Nikon days. __ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted October 5, 2006 Share #63 Posted October 5, 2006 Thanks for pointing that out, Guy ... I just read your post soon after I posted in this thread. To be honest, I've always used point and shooters more often at occasions when flash were needed ... so I can safely ignore this feature too. However, I would be very interested in some comparison between the coded and non-coded lenses done by someone who can be trusted such as Sean ... and there'll be no need to repeat the test myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted October 5, 2006 Share #64 Posted October 5, 2006 It will be interesting to see if coded lenses have some benifits besides flash and Exif data. I Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvaubel Posted October 5, 2006 Share #65 Posted October 5, 2006 Every version of the M8 "Photokina Lady" image that I've seen has been 'way overprocessed in RAW, with sharpening from another planet applied. I've seen real M8 shots, and even with betaware they are a very nice starting point. I was looking at the RAW image of the "Photokina Lady" again as was gratified to see how little noise there was in the image @ ISO 320. In fact, after I jacked up the exposure 2 stops, I could see no noise in the densest shadow detail. Pretty impressive. And the dynamic range is intense. The only other images I have seen that contain EXIF information where shot at ISO 1250, but they are 2K+/- JPEGs. Still the noise level is O.K. But whats most impressive is the way that Neat Image cleans up the noise that there is. After default processing I could see almost no noise @ 100% and the images were still crisp. I wish there were more pix to review but what little I've seen is encouraging.. Actually, the only image worth looking at in detail is the Photokina Lady RAW file. Considering the conditions, lighting and razor thin DOF (must have been shot wide open) its a provocative picture. We are lucky that he captured her eye and chin the the razor thin DOF. Otherwise folks would be complaining about lack of resolution ! The infocus areas are so sharp that almost any sharpening applied is too much. I have a feeling that those people who are oversharpening are trying to focus the OOF areas! A glass 90% full Rex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek Posted October 5, 2006 Share #66 Posted October 5, 2006 Hi all and greetings from the north! This is my first writing in here and this is the day when I ordered my silver M8 I'm number 9 on that list... Anyhow, I have a comment regarding the Danish site and its pictures. I don't speak Danish but do speak Swedish and for me it is easy to understand what it says. That is the title on this URL: Photokina billeder med LEICA M8 + M 2,8/28 ASPH "Photokina billeder med LEICA M8 + M 2,8/28 ASPH" which says in English: "Photokina pictures with LEICA M8...." So, together with resolution and the above title it seems that they were taken with M8. I indeed was shocked after seeing cheap P&S camera quality but let's wait and see what it looks like shooting with ISO 1250+ settings. /markku For me, native dane but currently living in Switzerland, the translation/interpretation of the word "med" in the URL is by far not such clear. It is *at least* equal likely to mean: pictures "of"/"showing" LEICA M8 + M 2,8/28 ASPH Svend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&W Posted October 5, 2006 Share #67 Posted October 5, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) For me, native dane but currently living in Switzerland, the translation/interpretation of the word "med" in the URL is by far not such clear. It is *at least* equal likely to mean: pictures "of"/"showing" LEICA M8 + M 2,8/28 ASPH Svend Could be, but as I remember the pictures was not only with the M8 as motif. Can not be confirmed because the Danish distributor as removed the pictures today….! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted October 5, 2006 Share #68 Posted October 5, 2006 Can not be confirmed because the Danish distributor as removed the pictures today….! Well, that alone speaks a lot. But, I for one, won't really be bothered "even if" that's what we'll get at ISO 1250, even ISO800 I would say ... the biggest point is that now we have a Leica digital to use. So why there's a compelling reason for Leica to win every comparison against other cameras in the market is - totally beyond me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek Posted October 7, 2006 Share #69 Posted October 7, 2006 Could be, but as I remember the pictures was not only with the M8 as motif. Can not be confirmed because the Danish distributor as removed the pictures today….! I feel that you may remember correctly .. But it can't be clearlyderived from the URL-strings that the pictures were taken by a M8-camera. - Svend Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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