bobkatz Posted August 31, 2008 Share #1 Posted August 31, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Friends...Actually I have a M6 ttl 0.85, with a 50 mm. cron, and a 90 mm AApo cron. I really would like to have the lux 35mm but I cant afford it now . So Im thinking to buy a wide lens below the 35 mm, maybe zeiss or voigtlander (maybe 21mm or 25mm). So please tell me: which lens has the "leica Taste?, I must have too a viewfinder to atach on the hot shoe of my m6 Ttl 0.85 -Right? if so, which viewfinder I must consider?, and with the viewfinder attached is posible yet to use my flash sf 20?. And finally do you think is a good idea in a future to sell my cron 50mm and buy the lux 35 mm??. Thanks very much in advance for yout time and opinions... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lars_bergquist Posted August 31, 2008 Share #2 Posted August 31, 2008 Your camera has a finder frame for the 35mm focal length, so no auxiliary finder is needed if that is what you want. As for the 'Leica taste', do you mean the old one, or the new one? One lens that would go well with the 50mm Summicron—having the 'old taste'—would be the version IV pre-aspheric 35mm Summicron. Do not be tempted by the previous, non-aspherical Summilux (vintage 1961) because the only excuse for that lens was its speed, and believe me, it was a bad excuse. Voigtländer Cosina make good 35mm lenses, and good lenses in general. You may well consider buying one, but I suspect that sooner or later, you will come to regard is at a stop-gap. Zeiss, needless to say, make very good lenses. Any lens shorter than 35mm will of course require an auxiliary finder. It is rumoured that Leica will re-introduce its single focal length bright frame finders at the PhotoKina next month. Failing this, Voigtländer and Zeiss both make good finders of this type. Those by Zeiss are more luxurious, and expensive, but those by Voigtländer are perfectly serviceable. With the excellent high speed films of today, very fast lenses are not as tempting as they were just ten or fifteen years ago. Speeds from 1:2.8 to 2.0 are quite satisfactory nowadays for nearly all purposes. The old man from the Age of Tri-X Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobkatz Posted August 31, 2008 Author Share #3 Posted August 31, 2008 Thanks Lars...Im thinking buy a zeiss 21 mm or a voigtlander 21 mm, and my question is which of these lenses has the leica taste on the photos...and I must get a viewfinder for this focal distance..right??...best reagrds.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted September 1, 2008 Share #4 Posted September 1, 2008 Actually, the old Summilux wasn't that bad at medium apertures. But you are after an ultra wide. Voigtländer 21 with rangefinder coupling is almost certainly the most economical choice, but I haven't had any experience with it. Voigtländer 25 does not have rangefinder coupling. My favorite is the Leica 24-ASPH. It's a superb lens, but pricey. Zeiss have a good reputation, and are priced somewhere between Leica and Voigtländer. Voigtländer, Zeiss or Leica viewfinders are all good. A Voigtländer double hotshoe adaptor will let you use both flash and viewfinder at the same time -- but you will need to attach the flash cable to the flash socket. For detailed info and prices on all these products, see The Photo Village, Inc.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlancasterd Posted September 1, 2008 Share #5 Posted September 1, 2008 Voigtländer 25 does not have rangefinder coupling. There are two CV 25mm lenses - the old 'snapshot' Skopar is indeed scale focussed, but the new, M-bayonet, 25mm f4.0 VM Color Skopar P has normal rangefinder coupling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 1, 2008 Share #6 Posted September 1, 2008 What you need is a subscription to ReidReviews. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted September 1, 2008 Share #7 Posted September 1, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Aha, I wasn't aware of the RF-coupled CV 25P, thanks John. Also, see Erwin Putts at New site. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted September 1, 2008 Share #8 Posted September 1, 2008 Hard to find the reviews on the Erwin Putts site. Voigtländer lenses are actually under Zeiss. See Voigtlander lenses. Then tab back to read about Zeiss, then hunt for Leica. Worth reading, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leica_mage Posted September 1, 2008 Share #9 Posted September 1, 2008 Hi Friends...Actually I have a M6 ttl 0.85, with a 50 mm. cron, and a 90 mm AApo cron. I really would like to have the lux 35mm but I cant afford it now . So Im thinking to buy a wide lens below the 35 mm, maybe zeiss or voigtlander (maybe 21mm or 25mm). So please tell me: which lens has the "leica Taste? None has either the 'new' ASPH taste, the older 'glow' (not all older Leitz had that, anyway) or the intermediate Mandler-at-the-edge-of-the-ASPH-precipice signature that the latest 50mm Summicron has. But for something very pleasing albeit different I would seriously consider the ZM (Zeiss) 25mm Biogon. I seriously personally don't care for any of the CV lenses except the 15mm Heliar. And finally do you think is a good idea in a future to sell my cron 50mm and buy the lux 35 mm??. Thanks very much in advance for yout time and opinions... I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with Lars about both of the 35mm Leitz lenses he mentions. Personally I found that between f/2 and f/11 the pre-ASPH Summilux was one of the most magical lenses I've ever used, with an incredible gamut of delicious midtones. At f/2.8 already it is simply stellar. By comparison I found the Summicron (IV) a mediocrily uneventful lens - and at f/2 the Summilux's performance outclasses the Summicron (IV)'s in terms of contrast, resolution and resistance to flare and veiling glare. For this poster, it's no contest between the two (and I never used the f/1.4 stop, which indeed can be problematic), but do bear in mind that the Summilux's price has gone up rather steeply over the past three years - partly on account of posts like this one! My one gripe with the Summilux was its 1 m minimum focusing distance - now there's a reason to hate a 35mm lens! Cheers and happy hunting, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NZDavid Posted September 1, 2008 Share #10 Posted September 1, 2008 One more site to check is CameraQuest Home. Lots of pics and info on all these lenses. Very interesting above re Zeiss. They are undoubtedly top-notch lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leica_mage Posted September 1, 2008 Share #11 Posted September 1, 2008 One more site to check is CameraQuest Home. Lots of pics and info on all these lenses. With a slight CV bias as the owner of the site is sales representative for these lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter_n Posted September 1, 2008 Share #12 Posted September 1, 2008 My one gripe with the Summilux was its 1 m minimum focusing distance - now there's a reason to hate a 35mm lens!Agree with this. You do need a 35mm with < 0.7M closest distance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobkatz Posted September 1, 2008 Author Share #13 Posted September 1, 2008 Hi friends....thanks very much all of you ¡¡¡ here I have a lot information...I wonder f/1.4 really isnt necesary, and will be terrific have a lens focuses minor 1 meter...right?? Best regards friends...Saludos cordiales... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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