mooky Posted August 18, 2008 Share #41 Posted August 18, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) For the DMR user, a re-badged Canon would not represent an upgrade. IMHO, internet rumors aren't worth the electrons they're written with. Affirmative on that..... Too, I'd stop using Leica's if they did a venture with Canon. Why would a dedicated Leica user want to bother with Canon's bad ergonomic controls - I've used the EOS line and found them a pain in the arse to change metering, etc. No thank's. If someone likes Canon's, fine. Enough of Canon already - this is a Leica forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted August 18, 2008 Posted August 18, 2008 Hi mooky, Take a look here Canon Rumour. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jrc Posted August 18, 2008 Share #42 Posted August 18, 2008 Canon wants to sell Canon lenses. If Leica built lenses for the EOS system, then either these lenses would be perceived as superior to Canon’s own offerings, or the other way round. In the first case, this move wouldn’t be in Canon’s best interest, and in the latter case, it wouldn’t be in Leica’s best interest. There is no way both could win. I don't entirely agree. There's also price differential, quality, and ease-of-use to take into account. The new 1DsIII review on DPR suggests that Canon glass needs to be chosen carefully, or it won't give you the full benefit of the sensor. So the equation would be: Licence Leica to build costly, manual-focus, extremely high-quality lenses that Canon either can't make, or has no interest in making (because they are a consumer company that looks closely at margins, and the sales/margin on a new line of prime lenses would be too low). That way Canon solves a problem (complaints from specialist and landscape and other photographers who want the absolute highest quality lenses) with little risk to its adequate-to-excellent, much lower-priced, big-selling, and above all, autofocus lenses. Leica solves a problem in that it gets an excellent camera with superb resolution on which to mount its lenses. They might have to sign an agreement that would set a minimum price on their lenses, that would keep the price well above Canon's prices, but that would happen anyway. To me, all that would make sense for both sides, even if Leica came out with their own DSLR. (I don't think there'd be a rebadging, though -- both sides would be ridiculed for that.) But I don't think it will happen anyway. I think Leica will either come out with its own DSLR, or give it up entirely. I've always thought that Leica should be more creative in considering cross-over work, when it's possible. I think Leica should make a deal (or just do it, if it's legal) to make their cameras fully compatible with Nikon's flash system. Nikon would get the money for the extra flash sales (couldn't complain about that) and Leica would get the best flash system ever made -- and since I doubt that anybody would chose a camera system, especially a Leica, based on what flash was available, Nikon wouldn't have to worry about shooting themselves in the foot, either. JC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 18, 2008 Share #43 Posted August 18, 2008 What if Canon made a camera for Leica - to Leica's specification? Not just a rebadged 5D or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooky Posted August 18, 2008 Share #44 Posted August 18, 2008 What if Canon made a camera for Leica - to Leica's specification? Not just a rebadged 5D or whatever. Andy,,,,,Not for me,,,,,,, I think that Canon, has it's good points and less than good, just like all other companies and products. But to me they are a company that will only be satisfied when they own ($$$$) all of the market, and they're not far from that now. Why work with a company that seemingly has that attitude? Leica would be taking another step backwards if they had the biggest image conglomerate on the planet building bodies for them. It just wouldn't seem right. The joint effort with Minolta was more a partnership of equals and did nothing for Leica's reputation even though the bodies were 'serviceable'. I don't think it would be a good way of maintaining the Leica legacy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted August 18, 2008 Share #45 Posted August 18, 2008 Forum members are gladly confusing Panasonics with Leicas so who don't you give one chance to Canon? at least they are a REAL camera company. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHAG Posted August 18, 2008 Share #46 Posted August 18, 2008 Over at drp or whatever it was there is a rumour that Leica are considering rebanding Canons for their DSLR range ....that would really get the anti boys in a twist. It would be quite a episode watching the mental wriggle come gymnastics Maybe they should put Imants in it… http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/people/60847-imants-sale.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted August 18, 2008 Share #47 Posted August 18, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Forum members are gladly confusing Panasonics with Leicas so who don't you give one chance to Canon? at least they are a REAL camera company. ...whose first foray into the market was producing Leica rip-offs... Regards, Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted August 18, 2008 Share #48 Posted August 18, 2008 Leica could even compete with Canon costwise - by leaving out AF - That's Canon's achillesheel anyway some of the 1DMkIII owners are ready for the rubber room through frustration and there are those Canon wides, that have built-in bokeh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFashnReloaded Posted August 18, 2008 Share #49 Posted August 18, 2008 Over at drp or whatever it was there is a rumour that Leica are considering rebanding Canons for their DSLR range ....that would really get the anti boys in a twist. It would be quite a episode watching the mental wriggle come gymnastics I'd say that the rumor is bollix. No doubt a Canikon fan boy out to get some attention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFashnReloaded Posted August 18, 2008 Share #50 Posted August 18, 2008 Forum members are gladly confusing Panasonics with Leicas so who don't you give one chance to Canon? at least they are a REAL camera company. Ah, always nice to hear from a__hat Sdai. Go play with your Nikons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted August 18, 2008 Share #51 Posted August 18, 2008 reload that canopn...........an article to stick onto the fridge with your Imants fridge magnet(no relation but happy to promote) Bad Subjects: Curing the Canon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R10dreamer Posted August 19, 2008 Share #52 Posted August 19, 2008 If enough people don't respect the quality of Leica with their wallets there won't be a Leica in this world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshore Posted August 19, 2008 Share #53 Posted August 19, 2008 What if Canon made a camera for Leica - to Leica's specification? Not just a rebadged 5D or whatever. Hmmm. Sounds like you might know something Andy. Want to fess up? Or is all this confusion based around the rumor that Leica will show a prototype R10 with lenses that have ultrasonic motors in them at photokina? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
offshore Posted August 19, 2008 Share #54 Posted August 19, 2008 If enough people don't respect the quality of Leica with their wallets there won't be a Leica in this world. C'mon R10 it takes more than a wallet to buy a Leica it takes a credit card with a big credit line. By the way is that you in the picture, you're a fox. If that's not you then forget I said that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted August 19, 2008 Share #55 Posted August 19, 2008 What if Canon made a camera for Leica - to Leica's specification? Not just a rebadged 5D or whatever. If Hasselblad/Imacon won't, why would Canon? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted August 19, 2008 Share #56 Posted August 19, 2008 Many things could happen but not Leica + Canon ... if these two come together, all other camera companies will go six feet under. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlespoon1990 Posted August 19, 2008 Share #57 Posted August 19, 2008 Many things could happen but not Leica + Canon ... if these two come together, all other camera companies will go six feet under. Exactly, Leica M8's sensor is very different to Canon's ones in the way that pixels in the margin are adjusted to correct Barrel Distortion There's no way for them to coorperate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 19, 2008 Share #58 Posted August 19, 2008 We are not talking about the M8 replacement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted August 19, 2008 Share #59 Posted August 19, 2008 Hmmm. Sounds like you might know something Andy. Want to fess up? I don't know any more than you do, but it just seemed like "an option". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALUX Posted August 19, 2008 Share #60 Posted August 19, 2008 I don't know any more than you do, but it just seemed like "an option". Forget it! There is neither a need nor a benefit for Canon to sell camera bodies to Leica. It would be a very small business for Canon and they would need to establish an addional production line for that. More hazzle that it's worth... If Canon would really be unable to develop good ultra wide angle lenses (which I don't believe) the could just licence a lens from Zeiss or Leica. Regards Alex Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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