stunsworth Posted September 27, 2006 Share #41 Posted September 27, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Why did Leica drop HSS (high speed synch flash introduced on the M7) with the M8? Presumably because the curtains on the new shutter move too fast - if I remember the HSS process relied on the flashgun firing a series of pulses of light as the relatively slow cloth shutter traveresed the frame together. If the shutter moves very fast there isn't enough time tofire the flash the reauired number of times. The upside of the faster curtains is that the flash sync speed is increased to 1/250th. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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marknorton Posted September 27, 2006 Author Share #42 Posted September 27, 2006 I'm sorry, but I did not have the chance to go into the detail of the raw processing. There were so many people there that you had the chance to spend a minute with the camera before handing it on to someone else. There is an argument that the lens coding and associated firmware processing are just extending the capabilities of the lens and sensor to form a complete imaging system and that it is perfectly valid to include the corrected information in the RAW file, but I know others will see it differently. I didn't think to check whether the new Zeiss lenses were there - the Zeiss stand was crowded - not so much with people but more by equipment including some huge movie and broadcast TV lenses. The Zeiss Ikon camera was there but didn't look to be the star of their show. As for the other questions, I was only there for a day, there's a huge amount to take in, so hopefully other people visiting will be able to fill in the gaps! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
waterlenz Posted September 27, 2006 Share #43 Posted September 27, 2006 As for the other questions, I was only there for a day, there's a huge amount to take in, so hopefully other people visiting will be able to fill in the gaps! Thank you for your efforts! Tom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted September 27, 2006 Share #44 Posted September 27, 2006 Steve I suspect that the lack of HSS has more to do with metering complexity than the shutter. The M8 has substantially the same shutter as the R9, which does have HSS. But the R9 has a meter cell up in the pentaprism housing just for HSS, and you have to go through the rigmarole of a pre-flash in F-mode. And even the R9/DMR can't do ordinary TTL flash, because of the different reflectivity from the digital snesor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldie Posted September 27, 2006 Share #45 Posted September 27, 2006 Is that a Zeiss f4/1700 in your pocket, or are you just pleased to see me? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billh Posted September 27, 2006 Share #46 Posted September 27, 2006 Guy, Err, with Leica AG taking a 51% stake in Sinar, perhaps you might get something close to your wish. Sinar I had no idea this existed. Look at the classic old Zeiss lenses - I wonder if Leica will finally enter the world of medium format? Sinaron Digital AF Lenses In cooperation with Carl Zeiss, the lenses for the autofocus configuration of the Sinar m camera were specially designed to meet the highest demands of digital photography. It is not only with regard to optical quality that we have charted new paths with Sinaron Digital AF lenses, but also with their operation. Application Sinaron Digital AF lenses are made for the use with a Sinar m camera in conjunction with the Sinaron Digital AF Mirror Module. They are not suited for the use with a view camera. Sinaron Digital AF lenses can not just be focused automatically. They can also be adjusted manually at any time by means of a focusing ring on the lens that reacts intelligently. When that ring is turned slowly, it activates the finest focusing steps, when the ring is turned quickly – with a flick of the wrist – it produces greater focusing steps. Sinaron Digital AF Planar T* 2.8/80 The Optical All-rounder The Sinaron Digital AF Planar T* 2,8/80 is the all around auto focus workhorse lens for professional digital photography on medium format sensors. The Planar T* 2,8/80 produces a perspective of 50 degrees – similar to the coverage of the human eye. It is designed to deliver excellent sharpness and image detail from infinity to the near range. Chromatic aberrations and geometric distortion are very well corrected. As the name “Planar” implies, the image plane is particularly flat, taking maximum advantage of the ultra-flat silicon sensors used in digital photography. The latest in Carl Zeiss stray light absorbing technologies have been applied to enable exceptionally clean colors and fully saturated, dark blacks. Aperture range: f/2.8 to f/22.0 Focusing range: 0.9 m to infinity Image ratio at minimum focus: 1:9 Dimensions: ø 98 mm x 75 mm Weight: 660 g Filter thread: M86 x 1 Sinaron Digital AF Distagon T* 4.0/40 The Super Sharp Super Wide The Sinaron Digital AF Distagon T* 4/40 is a sophisticated super wide-angle lens, giving outstanding performance to the edges of the field. Experts consider it the best wide-angle lens available for medium format digital photography. Sharpness is unusually high at all apertures and over the entire distance range from infinity to the close focus limit. Similarly, illumination across the frame is remarkably even, color reproduction is vivid, and flare is very well controlled. Aperture range: f/4.0 to f/22.0 Focusing range: 0.43 m (1.4 ft) to Infinity Image ratio at minimum focus: 1:8.3 Dimensions: ø 98 mm x 126 mm (ø 4" x 5") Weight: 1220 grams (2.7 lbs.) Filter thread: M86 x 1 Sinaron Digital AF Macro Planar T* 4.0/120 The Close-up Specialist The Sinaron Digital AF Macro-Planar T* 4/120 is a high-performance lens for close-up photography. It is the ideal lens for studio photography, product shots and exceptional images of subjects ranging in size from a postcard to a car. This lens provides excellent sharpness, even illumination, chromatic purity and distortion correction over the entire frame. While this lens is optimized for close-up photography it will deliver equally impressive images across the field at normal object distances when stopped down to f/8 or f/11, and provides a pleasing angle of coverage of 35° at infinity, perfectly suited to portraits. This lens will be available in Q3/2006. Aperture range: f/4.0 to f/32.0 Focusing range: 0.81 m (2.7 ft) to Infinity Image ratio at minimum focus: 1:4.5 Dimensions: ø 98 mm x 136 mm (ø 4" x 5.4") Weight: 1100 grams (2.4 lbs.) Filter thread: M86 x 1 Sinaron Digital AF Sonnar T* 4.0/180 The Universal Telephoto The Sinaron Digital AF Sonnar T* 4/180 is a telephoto lens of impressive performance. While it is still compact enough to be used handheld, the Sonnar’s exceptional sharpness will be most obvious when it is used on a tripod to generate highly detailed, crisp images at any f-stop and any object distance. Color reproduction is exceptionally clean and vibrant. Due to its high performance even at full aperture, image composition with selective focus is easy and will produce impressive results. This lens will be available in Q3/2006. Aperture range: f/4.0 to f/32.0 Focusing range: 1.57 m (5.2 ft) to Infinity Image ratio at minimum focus: 1:6.6 Dimensions: ø 98 mm x 160 mm (ø 4 x 6.3") Weight: 1300 grams (2.9 lbs.) Filter thread: M86 x 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 27, 2006 Share #47 Posted September 27, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just think of the possiblities with these companies tied in as one. Now where is my crystal ball. This lenses that Bill just mentioned are outstanding lenses, now lets get them on a great body with a MF back that we can use a Aptus or a Phase One back and we really will have something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoutman Posted September 27, 2006 Share #48 Posted September 27, 2006 I was there in the afternoon. very busy around the M-series stand. At first only the "Leica News" brochure was available, until I spoke to some women at the reception in my best french;) result: got all new catalogs for M-series, Digilux 3, D-Lux 3 and V-Lux 1 in both german, english and some in french. glad I ordered the M8 in black,although the MP leathering is not my favourite. Firmware was up to V 1.4 (but still not final). new viewfinder looks awfull but is for some unevitable. Michiel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_l Posted September 27, 2006 Share #49 Posted September 27, 2006 Michiel - The question on the new finder is not how it looks (which we all agree is awful), but how the image looks thorugh it for the longer focal lengths.....with a single magnification of .28, is the image for longer focals (24,28) so small as to be unusable? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grober Posted September 27, 2006 Share #50 Posted September 27, 2006 EEK! That multi-finder looks perfectly beastly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoutman Posted September 27, 2006 Share #51 Posted September 27, 2006 Michiel -The question on the new finder is not how it looks (which we all agree is awful), but how the image looks thorugh it for the longer focal lengths.....with a single magnification of .28, is the image for longer focals (24,28) so small as to be unusable? all viewfinders I saw had a white label attached "pre-release model: only with 21mm frame" A spokeman told me that Leica makes these themselves as the "old 21-24-28" is from Cosina's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted September 27, 2006 Share #52 Posted September 27, 2006 A Cosina Tri-Elmar in the works perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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