steve_rohrbach Posted September 20, 2006 Share #1 Posted September 20, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) I noticed that the digilux 3 now has a mirror to flip back and forth. One of my favorite things about the digilux 2 was that it was practically silent. I'm sorry that it's sucessor won't be. The little video clip of the M8 that showed someone pressing the shutter seemed pretty noisy as well. I might have to stick with my digilux 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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albertwang Posted September 20, 2006 Share #2 Posted September 20, 2006 It's not that noisy honestly. I have the E300 and it is pretty good sound with a slicing in the air. Silent shutter would have been nice however. But I'm not complaining when we are getting a 25mm f1.4 Summi in the mix! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateurdarts Posted September 20, 2006 Share #3 Posted September 20, 2006 The little video clip of the M8 that showed someone pressing the shutter seemed pretty noisy as well.QUOTE]Can you share this video ? Thanks Arnaud Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat_mcdermott Posted September 20, 2006 Share #4 Posted September 20, 2006 The little video clip of the M8 that showed someone pressing the shutter seemed pretty noisy as well.QUOTE]Can you share this video ? Thanks Arnaud Link to the M8 shutter sound video clip: Leica M8 numérique: révélation puzzle.... - Blog Lightmediation For what it's worth, I think it's not that noisy at all. At actual shooting distances in all but dead quiet situations you'll never notice it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsh Posted September 20, 2006 Share #5 Posted September 20, 2006 Picky, Picky Picky!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_rohrbach Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share #6 Posted September 20, 2006 I'm sorry, but do you know Leica users that aren't picky? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted September 20, 2006 Share #7 Posted September 20, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) You know, stop looking at the noise and look at the picture instead. Spasiba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Mitchum Posted September 20, 2006 Share #8 Posted September 20, 2006 You know, stop looking at the noise and look at the picture instead. Spasiba. Not that kind of noise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted September 20, 2006 Share #9 Posted September 20, 2006 I was in China and taking a photo of a couple of thousand ducks being herded to market, when I took a photo the click of the shutter made them run for the rice fields and hide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipNovaMac Posted September 21, 2006 Share #10 Posted September 21, 2006 Link to the M8 shutter sound video clip: Leica M8 numérique: révélation puzzle.... - Blog Lightmediation For what it's worth, I think it's not that noisy at all. At actual shooting distances in all but dead quiet situations you'll never notice it. Here is the link to DPR and their comparison to the M7 vs. the M8. It is a bit louder to be sure. My unscientific comparison to my Nikon D70s while listening to the DPR clip is that it seems to be the mirror slap making the most noise, of course. Otherwise the shutter noise seems to be the same between the two. Would make sense since both are metal shutters. I am sure that in situations that a Leica M film body would be allowed "officially", that the additional noise of the M8 would not limit its use. I know that shutter noise is minor consideration for much of my shooting; but a consideration at other times. The big reason I am leaning towards ordering the M8 is what I have mentioned a few other threads. The aspect of having a T-E Wide and my current T-E - along with my current 35/2.0, and 90/2.8 lenses (along with maybe the likes of the CV 75/2.5) would give me a kit that would breath new life in my current Leica kit, which includes a M6TTL (which I take out only when I want a "stealth" mode, or I know that I will operate only from DOF scale). To be able to cover my focal length needs in both film and digital is exciting. In particular with some of the best lenses out there. In a kit bag that takes up less space than my Nikon DSLR kit. I mention some of the ways I use my Leica kit for those that might read this asking why they might want to spend the money for a RF camera (and why I am willing perhaps at this time to part with my hard earned money. For many here the lack of the mirror slap (noise and viewfinder blackout) is a big plus. Some would say the near instant nature of the shutter release of a RF is the draw. For those of use that love wide angle work, being able to use DOF focusing is the draw. For others it is the precise focusing that can be had with fast primes. Based on images that I have seen from the Epson RD-1 series - there is something to be said about the mystique of the qualities of Leica and even CV lenses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat_mcdermott Posted September 21, 2006 Share #11 Posted September 21, 2006 Here is the link to DPR and their comparison to the M7 vs. the M8. It is a bit louder to be sure. Your link wasn't included, but this is the link I think you're referring to (scroll down for the sound clip): Leica M8 Hands-on Preview: 5. Body & Design: Digital Photography Review The M8 certainly has a different sound quality as well as being louder in decibals, but ultimately is quiet enough for the type of work for which I'd use the camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobold Posted September 21, 2006 Share #12 Posted September 21, 2006 There's plenty of work for which rangefinders used to be eminently suitable: dance and theatre photgraphy. IMHO, though, the D2/LC-1's finder is simply not good enough for this, although the absence of shutter noise is. When I used to do this for a living (the available light photgraphy, I mean) I always attended dress rehearsals, so I could make as much noise with the Nikon F2As as I needed. AFAIK, that's the way pros still do it, too. There is no way you can use a DSLR in a packed theatre on actual performance night. Only time will tell re. the M8's shutter; I don't think you can know much by listening to a sound clip. The older Leica RFs had almost silent shutters, from memory—but the last time I used one was 20 years ago—so who knows how reliable that memory is! I am assuming that the M8 uses the shutter from the R9 for that very fast top shutter speed. Personally, I'd be happy with 1/2000", and silent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipNovaMac Posted September 21, 2006 Share #13 Posted September 21, 2006 Your link wasn't included, but this is the link I think you're referring to (scroll down for the sound clip): Leica M8 Hands-on Preview: 5. Body & Design: Digital Photography Review The M8 certainly has a different sound quality as well as being louder in decibals, but ultimately is quiet enough for the type of work for which I'd use the camera. Thanks,"my bad"as they say. Glad that you agree that the M8 is not so bad.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipNovaMac Posted September 21, 2006 Share #14 Posted September 21, 2006 There's plenty of work for which rangefinders used to be eminently suitable: dance and theatre photgraphy. IMHO, though, the D2/LC-1's finder is simply not good enough for this, although the absence of shutter noise is. When I used to do this for a living (the available light photgraphy, I mean) I always attended dress rehearsals, so I could make as much noise with the Nikon F2As as I needed. AFAIK, that's the way pros still do it, too. There is no way you can use a DSLR in a packed theatre on actual performance night. Only time will tell re. the M8's shutter; I don't think you can know much by listening to a sound clip. The older Leica RFs had almost silent shutters, from memory—but the last time I used one was 20 years ago—so who knows how reliable that memory is! I am assuming that the M8 uses the shutter from the R9 for that very fast top shutter speed. Personally, I'd be happy with 1/2000", and silent. The point I was was making was in the likes of dealing with White House situations, and other demanding situations like that. Not the "norm" for most, but a consideration of some. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patina Posted September 21, 2006 Share #15 Posted September 21, 2006 I noticed that the digilux 3 now has a mirror to flip back and forth. One of my favorite things about the digilux 2 was that it was practically silent. I'm sorry that it's sucessor won't be. The little video clip of the M8 that showed someone pressing the shutter seemed pretty noisy as well. I might have to stick with my digilux 2. Well, let's put it this way: The Digilux 3 may be noisier due to the mirror, but hey, this is compensated by far by it's much less noisy, larger image sensor :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted September 21, 2006 Share #16 Posted September 21, 2006 Generally ducks are noisy as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
icemendicant Posted September 21, 2006 Share #17 Posted September 21, 2006 Apart from the fact that a number of reputable reviewers - Sean Reid in particular - have stated that the shutter/motor noise of the M8 is quite acceptable I have one comment to make on the video posted on Blog Lightmediation - although the shutter sounds a little loud on this video, did you notice the rat-a-tat-tat made by the shutter dial immediately afterwards - very loud? It would seem the sound track on this video has perhaps been overamplified. Certainly the shutter speed dial on my M7 does not sound that loud in real life. Dan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted September 21, 2006 Share #18 Posted September 21, 2006 Generally ducks are noisy as well I can cook you a good Peking duck for Thanksgiving if you wish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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