ErikFive Posted September 9, 2008 Share #141  Posted September 9, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) I always read the Canon using - R-Lenses with a strange sense of fascination; Why, I wonder would anyone do this? Because of the digital nature of the Canon bodies I suspect. But it's a CANON, the biggest throwaway digital camera producer on the planet, with all it's thousand and twenty features that require you to stop shooting to use them, or at least, take your eyes away from the finder to adjust. It would appear, that there isn't much pride of ownership to put a better lens on it - it just becomes a tool - which is okay. But geese, why do the Canon user's have to keep talking about it here?  This is a LEICA site. So, in a week or so, I hope there will be an R10 so at least, for a while, we won't have to hear about 'my Canon this, or my Canon that'. DOH!!!!!!!  Cry me a river...   Edit: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wildlightphoto Posted September 9, 2008 Share #142 Â Posted September 9, 2008 How can you say that since no 5D replacement has been announced? Â Because Canon made a big deal about their 'leap' to 14-bit processing. Woohoo! The DMR has been making fully 16-bit files for three years now and the image quality shows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgcd Posted September 10, 2008 Share #143 Â Posted September 10, 2008 Because Canon made a big deal about their 'leap' to 14-bit processing. Woohoo! The DMR has been making fully 16-bit files for three years now and the image quality shows. Â What Doug said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc Posted September 10, 2008 Share #144 Â Posted September 10, 2008 Because Canon made a big deal about their 'leap' to 14-bit processing. Woohoo! The DMR has been making fully 16-bit files for three years now and the image quality shows. Â Aside to Doug Herr - I just spent two days in Sacramento, and was surprised to find how much I liked it (I'd heard bad things from LA friends.) One thing that interested me is that while the living seems to be pretty good, the downtown is in decline -- leaving lots of potential cheap studio space. I'm surprised that I didn't see more art-related things, since cheap space in interesting areas often pull in the artists... Â Didn't have my cameras with me, but there were some nice shots Sunday evening outside that Cathedral between J&K (I think) streets, as people gathered for Mass. One hour from SF, two from Reno... Â JC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrc Posted September 10, 2008 Share #145 Â Posted September 10, 2008 I predict that Leica is going to do something weird. The weirdest thing would be if they did nothing at all, but just sat there and watched this bubble of speculation form, without trying to deflate it. If they do nothing, that *will* set these forums on fire. Â Neatest thing would be if they came up with a MF body with, say, an older MF chip (like a 30mp job, for cheapness) and a DX type feature for a ~20mp crop that uses R lenses with an adapter. Â That would set the martini among the pigeons. Â JC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riccis Posted September 10, 2008 Share #146 Â Posted September 10, 2008 ...doesn't fall into the medium format category. Â I wonder if 38 megapixels fall within the medium format category Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted September 10, 2008 Share #147 Â Posted September 10, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Because Canon made a big deal about their 'leap' to 14-bit processing. Woohoo! The DMR has been making fully 16-bit files for three years now and the image quality shows. Â So that's the reason why you feel DMR users would be unhappy with a 5D replacement even though no specs on that camera have been released? You don't feel that just perhaps you are jumping to a conclusion? I hope for Leica's sake that its potential market is somewhat greater than just current DMR users. Â And when Leica finally comes out with AF, IS, live view, good high ISO, fast frame rates, etc., that will be a big yawn too won't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share #148  Posted September 10, 2008 I wonder if 38 megapixels fall within the medium format category  But, it was yesterday's standard. God forbid ... if Canon cut the 50D sensor into 36x24 full format, that's gonna be 39.68 MP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted September 10, 2008 Share #149 Â Posted September 10, 2008 So that's the reason why you feel DMR users would be unhappy with a 5D replacement even though no specs on that camera have been released? You don't feel that just perhaps you are jumping to a conclusion? I hope for Leica's sake that its potential market is somewhat greater than just current DMR users. Â So tell me what the 5D replacement's image quality will be like and why it will be better than anything Leica will make. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted September 10, 2008 Share #150 Â Posted September 10, 2008 Aside to Doug Herr - I just spent two days in Sacramento, and was surprised to find how much I liked it (I'd heard bad things from LA friends.) One thing that interested me is that while the living seems to be pretty good, the downtown is in decline -- leaving lots of potential cheap studio space. I'm surprised that I didn't see more art-related things, since cheap space in interesting areas often pull in the artists... Â The artists' studios are typically in the outlying areas, even more run-down than downtown. Â One hour from SF, two from Reno... Â What's really great about Sacramento is that it's two hours from everything... what really sucks about Sacramento is that it's two hours from anything Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted September 10, 2008 Share #151 Â Posted September 10, 2008 So tell me what the 5D replacement's image quality will be like and why it will be better than anything Leica will make. Â I don't have a clue. I simply said that with the new A900 out at $3000 and with Canon's replacement for the 5D due soon, that I feel Leica will have some challenges. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share #152 Â Posted September 10, 2008 As many has pointed, the Achilles heel of Canon really is their wide angle lens ... if you're into that, you should try the A900 plus 16-35 ZA, which is 3000+1800 US, less than a 24/1.4 or 21/1.4 for a change. Â Good enough is good enough to 99.99% of the photographers on earth, take a look at Mark and Ruben's thread on dpreview, there's no response. Who would give it a damn when nobody can pay the price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted September 10, 2008 Share #153 Â Posted September 10, 2008 .... I simply said that with the new A900 out at $3000 and with Canon's replacement for the 5D due soon, that I feel Leica will have some challenges. Â Only if they try to compete for the same customers. There are many photographers who are more interested in image quality than in maximizing the number of features per dollar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share #154 Â Posted September 10, 2008 I don't have a clue. I simply said that with the new A900 out at $3000 and with Canon's replacement for the 5D due soon, that I feel Leica will have some challenges. Â The next "5D" is slated to steal the sales of the D3/D700, real good stuff from Canon are destined to be announced at the next PMA, by that time, their new sensor fab and camera factory near Yokohama will start its production run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted September 10, 2008 Share #155 Â Posted September 10, 2008 Only if they try to compete for the same customers. There are many photographers who are more interested in image quality than in maximizing the number of features per dollar. Â Having an interest in image quality and having a camera to produce that quality are two different things. So what do you guess Leica will be coming out with that will be so great? Â Assuming there is to be a Leica digital SLR, for the life or me, I can't think of anything they gain by keeping quiet about it. As I mentioned in a previous post, Sony showcased the A900 more than a year ago to try to keep Sony/Minolta users from jumping ship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share #156 Â Posted September 10, 2008 As I mentioned in a previous post, Sony showcased the A900 more than a year ago to try to keep Sony/Minolta users from jumping ship. Â 18 months to be exact. Â Leica probably figured it was all too late because almost all R users have jumped ship. Â How many folks were posting into these "R10" threads? You, Doug, Conrad, Andy and I, that's 5 ... adding a second hand, LCT, Steve, Rob, Jamie, that's probably all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted September 10, 2008 Share #157  Posted September 10, 2008 As many has pointed, the Achilles heel of Canon really is their wide angle lens ... if you're into that, you should try the A900 plus 16-35 ZA, which is 3000+1800 US, less than a 24/1.4 or 21/1.4 for a change. Good enough is good enough to 99.99% of the photographers on earth, take a look at Mark and Ruben's thread on dpreview, there's no response. Who would give it a damn when nobody can pay the price.  I'd like to see a link to the thread you are mentioning.  I think many digital cameras (and lenses) are certainly already good enough for most work. I shoot architecture and when I need higher quality, I stitch multiple images. These typically are in the 40 to 100 megapixel range. This is relatively easy to do with still objects and produces vastly higher quality and can make wider images than one can get from any single shot solution. The current 5D and Canon lenses are more than up to this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanG Posted September 10, 2008 Share #158 Â Posted September 10, 2008 ...How many folks were posting into these "R10" threads? You, Doug, Conrad, Andy and I, that's 5 ... adding a second hand, LCT, Steve, Rob, Jamie, that's probably all. Â Everyone can use a hobby... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted September 10, 2008 Author Share #159  Posted September 10, 2008 I'd like to see a link to the thread you are mentioning.  What link ... you just surf to dpreview.com.  Leica Talk Forum: Digital Photography Review  Mark Norton ... 8 hours ago, 1 response ... "hmmm, ahhh..."  Rubn Osuna ... 18 hours ago, 0 response. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/52520-some-news-or-rumor-about-r10/?do=findComment&comment=649069'>More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted September 10, 2008 Share #160 Â Posted September 10, 2008 I think many digital cameras (and lenses) are certainly already good enough for most work. I shoot architecture and when I need higher quality, I stitch multiple images. These typically are in the 40 to 100 megapixel range. This is relatively easy to do with still objects and produces vastly higher quality and can make wider images than one can get from any single shot solution. The current 5D and Canon lenses are more than up to this. Â Anything is good enough until you are aware of something better. Try a DMR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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