pascal_meheut Posted September 12, 2006 Share #181 Posted September 12, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) So, still someone to believe the pictures are a fake? And that the video comes from Roswell? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 12, 2006 Share #182 Posted September 12, 2006 Okay geez the video certainly looks real but i still say the image here don't . Man were is the love. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 12, 2006 Share #183 Posted September 12, 2006 Geez kind of a let down. i wanted some tall 6 Ft gorgeous leica lady with long blonde hair dressed in a red leica dot dress holding it in her hand for the unveiling. Instead we get some ugly guy, and all these months for the announcement and we get this . Yuk!!! at least the camera looks hot. LOL __ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcemanYQQ Posted September 12, 2006 Share #184 Posted September 12, 2006 So, still someone to believe the pictures are a fake? And that the video comes from Roswell? No, the video is from Area 51 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcemanYQQ Posted September 12, 2006 Share #185 Posted September 12, 2006 Okay geez the video certainly looks real but i still say the image here don't . Man were is the love. LOL Hi Guy, I feel your pain. If I could my product shots to look that "clean", I would pick up a whole new range of clients. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted September 12, 2006 Share #186 Posted September 12, 2006 Video notes: 1. we see the slot on the mount for the sensors that read the zebra-coding. Looks like the sensors are recessed with a single cover glass for protection. Dark glass, so probably IR sensors. 2. When the guy shoots the first exposure, it SOUNDS like the 'wind' is delayed until the finger comes off the shutter button in single exposure mode - but could just be a 1-second exposure. Somebody here asked for that option for 'discrete' situations. 3. Shutter at least as quiet as the Konica RF or RD-1 - drive significantly quieter and/or lower-pitched than the RF or Contax G. I'm willing to bet that at 5 feet it is at least as silent as my M4-2. 4. Red flashing light (as mentioned) to indicate SD card writing/reading (and likely missing card as well). As to gorgeous blonde vs. "ugly guy" - hey, this is an "art" film, not Hollywood. Even the dialogue is in French! "Un Homme et un Leica" I will bet the ISO and EV worries are way overblown - ISO will be just as accessible as the DMR (press set, twirl dial to "ISO" on a dedicated monochrome info line across the bottom of LCD, press set again, twirl dial to preferred ISO, press set a final time), EV will be simply mean thumbing the command dial clockwise or counter-clockwise with the camera to one's eye when in AUTO mode (much easier than the silly R8/R9 lever where one has to stick one's thumb in one's eye, IMHO). Moire filter/WB/etc. will be set just like the ISO. USB is too slow - Firewire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IcemanYQQ Posted September 12, 2006 Share #187 Posted September 12, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) USB is too slow - Firewire. USB 2.0 is much faster than USB 1.1, and right up there with Firewire speeds. I am sure most M8 users will just remove the card and plug straight into their computer. As for the USB access door material, I'm sure it will be rubber, a la Canon 1D, Nikon D series bodies, and will not easily be broken or torn off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 12, 2006 Share #188 Posted September 12, 2006 Go to the beginning of this thread, you'll see a link to a site. Follow the link, there is the video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 12, 2006 Share #189 Posted September 12, 2006 I will bet the ISO and EV worries are way overblown - ISO will be just as accessible as the DMR (press set, twirl dial to "ISO" on a dedicated monochrome info line across the bottom of LCD, press set again, twirl dial to preferred ISO, press set a final time), EV will be simply mean thumbing the command dial clockwise or counter-clockwise with the camera to one's eye when in AUTO mode (much easier than the silly R8/R9 lever where one has to stick one's thumb in one's eye, IMHO). Moire filter/WB/etc. will be set just like the ISO. USB is too slow - Firewire. Sounds like that is what you will have to do , hit set and spin the wheel. i do like the idea of the EV and i said that earlier just move the dial up and down , actually would be faster than the DMR. It looked to me about as fast as the DMR maybe a little better. Buffer we will have to see what that comes in at. The only issue if they use the dial is somehwere you have to hit a command button to get to ISO, WB and stuff that may need adjust . this sounds like a two step process hit Set than you will see the options like WB, ISO than spin for that spot hit set again than dial it in. Not unless they use the shutter for setting. Interesting to see what they finally did but given no second LCD they have to rely on the main screen for pre shot stuff. May not be as bad as it sounds those LCD are very good in the sun. Andy i still want the blonde, don't care about Hollywood. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 12, 2006 Share #190 Posted September 12, 2006 It will be Firewire and yes some may download from the camera, bad idea IMHO. But more important you can shoot tethered to a computer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 12, 2006 Share #191 Posted September 12, 2006 The other big secret area that no one has leaked is the Firmware and software packages and WHO did that. My guess is Jenoptiks. This part will be very interesting and for DMR users also, how much different will it be and what will be some of the adjustments made. Looking forward to the answers on Friday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 12, 2006 Share #192 Posted September 12, 2006 When the guy shoots the first exposure, it SOUNDS like the 'wind' is delayed until the finger comes off the shutter button in single exposure mode - but could just be a 1-second exposure. Somebody here asked for that option for 'discrete' situations. First shot (before removing the lens) is at B, as is the next one. And then he sets it to 1/125 first for a couple single shots and then for the continuous shooting demo. Could be that when the camera is set to S, removing the finger initiates the wind. I will bet the ISO and EV worries are way overblown.... I think all our worries are overblown. Leica knows they have to get this right, and they've always been pretty close anyway. Another thing: the cover on the left end is easily visible, but doesn't intrude. Just another unnecessary worry IMHO. And we've seen the 28/2.8 aspheric as well. This baby is going to fly! --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 12, 2006 Share #193 Posted September 12, 2006 BTW, Raw+jpeg is available. See MACANDPHOTO.COM - photo numérique sur Macintosh in french. The guy complains that ISO and WB are accessible only via the menus, as you can expect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 12, 2006 Share #194 Posted September 12, 2006 Did not read it yet but this can be a deal breaker and it is not overblown at all . if you have to dig for EV than that slows you down. Missing a shot because of that is a deal breaker and the same for ISO. As long as it does not go past the first page than it should be fine. Look at a canon 1dsMKII you have to get 3 or 4 deep to get to mirror lockup. That is not good and this is aimed at journalist also and screwing around with menu's is bad. So if you think it is overblown that's fine but when your in the shit you don't need another headache. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 12, 2006 Share #195 Posted September 12, 2006 Can't read FRENCH . LOL but it sure looks nice up to someones face and can get a idea of size and such. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 12, 2006 Share #196 Posted September 12, 2006 It seems that the menu is quite straightforward. The guy says "quickly accessible using the buttons on the left". Menu is "ISO, Exposure compensation, WB, Compression, Resolution, User Profile". My guess is that this menu is activated by the "Set" button and the other menu for less usual functions is activated by the "Menu" button just like the DMR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted September 12, 2006 Share #197 Posted September 12, 2006 So sounds like hit buttons on left for function than dial for making the change than hit set . May not be to bad I don't want to sound negative about this and leica does listen to what is said by folks that use there gear and i am sure they have done a good job of it. My point is I have seen many others screw this up so bad that all they want to do is add more selling points to there camera's by adding more menu items and functionally it does not work well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraig Posted September 12, 2006 Share #198 Posted September 12, 2006 There is a new video of the M8 at: Leica M8 numérique: révélation puzzle.... - Blog Lightmediation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravastar Posted September 12, 2006 Share #199 Posted September 12, 2006 Can't read FRENCH . LOL but it sure looks nice up to someones face and can get a idea of size and such. Try this: Translated version of http://macandphoto.typepad.com/ If you click on the continuation link at the bottom of the article, that will also translate automagically. You can then see the menu screen. Also clicking on the small LCD images will bring up a larger version. Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
humanized_form Posted September 12, 2006 Share #200 Posted September 12, 2006 wow.. the histogram display is great. the histogram display "varies according to the framing" of the image viewed on the lcd, per info from the french site linked above. the menus look pretty simple too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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