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So many passionate descriptions about this lens, and so many great images, you all broke me down. I think I tend toward the 35mm view of life more on the M8, so I'm not sure if this will end up a practical decision, but I had to see it for myself. Mine arrived yesterday, and my first impressions are that two important reasons to use the lens exceeded my expectations. I didn't expect it to be so sharp at 2.0, and I didn't expect to like the quality of the bokeh as much as I do. Here's a 100% crop showing what I mean. (1/30, iso 640, f2). I plan to let this lens be my "cap" on one body and see where it tales me. thanks for all the temptation friends. ;>) best...Peter

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Right Charles- I've been gravitating to a 50mm effective FL on my Ms, using a 50 on my M7 and 35 on my M8. It just feels right, and as Guy has said, this isn't a bad way to decide what lens to mostly use. But sometimes jeans have to be worn awhile to get that comfy feel, I'll try it with the 28 cron. By the way, your images and comments were a big factor, I like your work, and also do a lot of live music shooting. best...Peter

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Oddly enough, mine also just arrived by (as in 20 minutes ago) by FedEx. I've shot exactly 10 shots with it, and so far I share your enthusiasm about it at f2.0 and the FOC (love having 35-ish back!).

 

What a great lens, and a perfect compliment to some of the others, and it's great to have the extra stop over the 24..

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I think that more than half the images I've taken with the M8 must be with the 28 summicron - and most of the time it's wide open. Incredibly sharp, and beautiful OOF. I was addicted to the 35mm Summicron 4 before and loved it's compact size - that + an M6 was really pocketable, so if we can get FF working on the Leica, it'll be back in pole position again. As for now though, the 28mm cron is worth its weight...

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Oddly enough, mine also just arrived by (as in 20 minutes ago) by FedEx. I've shot exactly 10 shots with it, and so far I share your enthusiasm about it at f2.0 and the FOC (love having 35-ish back!).

 

What a great lens, and a perfect compliment to some of the others, and it's great to have the extra stop over the 24..

having my 28 cron experience synched with yours adds to the fun Jamie! That's great company to be in. best...Peter

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Excellent shot Arif but that looks like two pictures, not one, right?

 

 

Actually Gunnar, that is one picture. The bride is walking under a roof in a covered corridor (similar to the one on the far side of the picture) with snow falling in the open courtyard behind her.

 

Thank you for the compliment,

Arif

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Arif,

 

Nice photo above. Your website is very impressive. Thanks for sharing. I also have a new D3; so, I haven't taken the M8 out recently. Today, I'd identified my 28mm Elmarit (not a Summicron) as one of three Leica lenses to sell to finance a AF-S Nikkor 500mm f/4G ED VR. Two completely different camera systems to nurture and feed.

 

Question: In your 'Enoshima Matsuri' Gallery the first photo was identified as shot with a D3 and 200mm lens. Is that the 200mm f/2 VR? I also see in the 'Kyoto' gallery that you have an 85mm f/1.4. Both of those are 'leica-like' in the quality of images they're capable of drawing. Again, great work.

 

Thanks.

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Arif,

 

Nice photo above. Your website is very impressive. Thanks for sharing. I also have a new D3; so, I haven't taken the M8 out recently. Today, I'd identified my 28mm Elmarit (not a Summicron) as one of three Leica lenses to sell to finance a AF-S Nikkor 500mm f/4G ED VR. Two completely different camera systems to nurture and feed.

 

Question: In your 'Enoshima Matsuri' Gallery the first photo was identified as shot with a D3 and 200mm lens. Is that the 200mm f/2 VR? I also see in the 'Kyoto' gallery that you have an 85mm f/1.4. Both of those are 'leica-like' in the quality of images they're capable of drawing. Again, great work.

 

Thanks.

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Arif,

 

I just looked at your 'Kyoto' gallery again. The D3 and Nikkor 85mm f/1.4, 1/640 at ISO 6400. Maybe the M8 'upgrade' program will eventually move our acceptable ISO range up. Interesting to see what an M8 with a Noctilux would have done with the same shots.

 

Thanks, again.

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Matt,

Thank you very much for taking the time to go through my gallery and I am very happy that you liked the pictures. Regarding the questions, I love the new D3 and the new lenses that Nikon has come out with including the 14-24 and the 24-70. The high ISO allows one to really do wonders and I am just aching to photograph dancers/sports with it (I am sure Jamie must be tempted as well). Having said that, taking the M8 is just pure fun so now I take both with me and try different things. I haven't quite finished my Kyoto shots and the weekend wedding pictures but just uploaded what I could conveniently. If the M8 can achieve the high ISO like the D3 then Noctilux owners (including myself) will be smiling and dancing like a groom on his wedding night. I am sure your new 500mm lens will be pure delight as well as great for muscle training.

 

I have the 200f2 but the Enoshima shots were taken with an old 80-200f2.8 (which was also used at the Tokyo dance festival shots). I do like the lens albeit a bit slow to autofocus. I have had it for more than 13 years now but it is still a joy to use on my new D3.

 

I will pay more attention to EXIF uploads since people like you do read them. I noticed that some of my files do not have them.

 

Thanks again and feel free to ask further questions,

Arif

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Arif--they are wonderful shots! And a beautiful example of the 28 Cron as well.

 

I have been very tempted to sell my 5d and Canon glass to buy a D3. In the balance is the fact I can still put R lenses on the EOS mount, but not the Nikon mount. While I really like the new zooms Nikon has come out with, their lack of wide primes right now is a bit odd (I'm sure they're going to change that).

 

But the rumours of an R10 sooner rather than later have me holding off on anything dSRL right now, and Canon has to yet replace the 5d, so we'll see what happens there.

 

In the meantime, yes, I'd love to see a good high-ISO M :)

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While I really like the new zooms Nikon has come out with, their lack of wide primes right now is a bit odd (I'm sure they're going to change that).

 

All you D3 guys should check out the Zeiss ZF lenses. No autofocus of course (not a problem for anyone around here, I wouldn't think ;) ) and they are simply superb in every way on the D3. The 28/2, 35/2, and both macros in particular.

 

The 25/2.8 has some curvature of field, but if used with this in mind, it's not a deal breaker. It's great other than that. Some people have reported funky bokeh in the 50/1.4, but the 50/2 macro is beautiful. I'm hoping the next step is a 21 Distagon.

 

Nikon really has done a great job with their newest zooms. Bodes well for other nice things to come...

 

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Nikon really has done a great job with their newest zooms. Bodes well for other nice things to come...

 

Nikon's wider zooms put Canon's to shame, really. They are so much better, and some are comparible with primes. It's too bad that by the time Nikon has a full set of primes again I will have either jumped to the R10 or 6D (5d2?) or bought a full-frame M8 :)

 

I've checked out the Zeiss stuff too. Very nice, but I'll keep my R lenses, though if Zeiss does resurrect the Distagon 21 that will make a lot of people very happy :)

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Nikon's wider zooms put Canon's to shame, really. They are so much better, and some are comparible with primes. It's too bad that by the time Nikon has a full set of primes again I will have either jumped to the R10 or 6D (5d2?) or bought a full-frame M8 :)

 

I've checked out the Zeiss stuff too. Very nice, but I'll keep my R lenses, though if Zeiss does resurrect the Distagon 21 that will make a lot of people very happy :)

 

 

I agree. I have also used the ZF 35/2 on the D3 and it is really fantastic. The 14-24 and 24-70 are very good. Here is a shot of the New Year celebration in Tokyo with the 14-24. The baloons have wishes tied to them and are released at midnight. Background is the Zojoji temple and Tokyo Tower with "2008" visible on it. Lights at the bottow are cell phones recording movies of the baloon releases and there is a fire to keep the crowd warm.

 

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All these news toys makes me want to quit work and do photography on a full-time basis ;) I wonder if that is the new mid-life crisis (previously it used to be get a red sports car, a younger girlfriend, and a hair transplant)

 

I am eagerly awaiting the FF M8 as well. Sometimes it is still fun to take my old M6/M7 for a walk and load the "mood of the day" film in the camera.

 

Best wishes,

Arif

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Arif,

 

Thanks for the response. A 13 year old 80-200mm lens! That's why I love Nikon (and Leica). The good lenses are very good and have staying power,

 

The 200mm VR f/2 would have been 'muscle training' for those shots also. I'm getting the 500mm lens for a photo trip in May to the Khutzeymateen Grizzley Preserve in British Columbia. The lens will probably rest on the side of the zodiac. I did handhold a 200-400 VR to shoot eagles on the Skagit River here in Washington recently. It's manageble; although, I need a lot of practice to get the settings on the D3 right (a bit more complicated then an M8). A 90mm Summicron just wouldn't work for grizzlies or eagles. Different 'tools' for different tasks.

 

It is my mid-life crisis. The M8 was my first journey back into 'real' cameras after a decade, or so, of 'point-and-shoots'. It's slightly less expensive then a Porsche Boxster (more acceptable to my wife though). I look forward to seeing more of your photography.

 

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