rick123 Posted September 1, 2006 Share #1 Posted September 1, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi everyone! What do you think of the Hasselblad H2D39 with 39 Mpix? ($30,000.00!!!) At what point will the Mpix "race" end? How do Hasselblad lenses and cameras compare with Leica by the way? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mwilliamsphotography Posted September 1, 2006 Share #2 Posted September 1, 2006 I love it. No DSLR even comes close to the image quality... and never will. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 1, 2006 Share #3 Posted September 1, 2006 Not the same size, not the same price, not the same speed, not the same use and yes, not the same final quality. So comparison is somewhat as irrelevant as comparing a 6x6 film blad with a M7. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chris_h Posted September 1, 2006 Share #4 Posted September 1, 2006 Hi everyone! What do you think of the Hasselblad H2D39 with 39 Mpix? ($30,000.00!!!)At what point will the Mpix "race" end? How do Hasselblad lenses and cameras compare with Leica by the way? Thanks. What do I think ... I think, digital at it's best - today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
waileong Posted September 1, 2006 Share #5 Posted September 1, 2006 It will end soon, at least using current types of technology. They're already near the wavelength of light now on a pixel density basis. The 39 MP is only achieved because someone is willing to pay $30K for a very large sensor, basically a very expensive chip. If revolutionary technology comes along that can overcome the limitations of the laws of physics, then who knows? Hi everyone! What do you think of the Hasselblad H2D39 with 39 Mpix? ($30,000.00!!!)At what point will the Mpix "race" end? How do Hasselblad lenses and cameras compare with Leica by the way? Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted September 1, 2006 Share #6 Posted September 1, 2006 also take a look at the sinar m camera. it has janoptik sensor on it and true zeiss lenses. both are in the list of my "dilemas". i have a problem with h camera though. simply not attached to it. but there is the same back for the hassy v camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frc Posted September 1, 2006 Share #7 Posted September 1, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not until now and unlike to be in the near future i've been asked to supplie a picture that will be diplayed on a scyscrapersize facade. If any of you would like me to perform such a job, I will seriously think of buying this grand digicam. Until now I'm humble enough to be pleased with a modest M8. Thank you. Fr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flatfour Posted September 1, 2006 Share #8 Posted September 1, 2006 If you want real quality then get a 10x8 camera. That will knock the Hassy for six. But who wants such bulkiness today. I wouldnt have another Hassy if you paid me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilliamsphotography Posted September 1, 2006 Share #9 Posted September 1, 2006 Different tools for different needs. True Zeiss Lenses? CFV adapter = all CF, CFE and CFI lenses on the H2D/39. Use fisheye to 300mm all the time ... actually is better than on a V body because the H2 provides in-viewfinder focus confirmation, TTL metering, and unlike some adapters doesn't require stop-down metering. The HC lenses are no slouch either. The HC 50/3.5, 100/2.2 and 300/4.5 among others are quite excellent ... and unlike my prevous Contax 645 kit, actually achieve auto-focus in low light. Use them for wedding candids all the time. Comparisons are irrelevant because there is no comparison. This thing murders my Canon 1DsMKII even with Contax/Zeiss or R lenses mounted. No need to do billboard sized enlargements to see the difference either. The tonal gradations and subtle shadings from a 39 meg 645 sized sensor are superior in every way ... even in an 8"X10" print. Fear of obsolesce? Shoulda, coulda, woulda ... I'm being paid to make photographs now, not 10 years from now. BTW, didn't pay anyway near $30,000. for the back either... including the camera kit. Still use the Canons, and can't wait for the M8 ... which are different horses for a different courses. No difference from when one used a 35mm for some work and a MF for other work ... except both tools now cost a lot more initially ... then make up for it in time and materials savings ... or recoupe costs through digital capture fees on commercial work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted September 1, 2006 Share #10 Posted September 1, 2006 Geewhiz, nice camera but it's kinda too big to lug around and hide! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilliamsphotography Posted September 1, 2006 Share #11 Posted September 1, 2006 Same as a Canon 1DsMKII in that regard. Doesn't seem to stop me and a lot of others from getting candids. (see attached) And the assistant does the lugging BTW : -) One more time with feeling ... Horses for courses. The more courses you need to run, the more horses you need to run them. Nothing does everything. If you only run one way, then one is enough. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/4395-wow-39-mix/?do=findComment&comment=41393'>More sharing options...
simon_hughes Posted September 1, 2006 Share #12 Posted September 1, 2006 Beautiful image Marc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwilliamsphotography Posted September 1, 2006 Share #13 Posted September 1, 2006 Thank you Simon. This camera isn't something I would have gotten for wedding photography ... it's for commercial work. But since I have it, why not use it for other stuff? Recently shot a wedding where the Bride wanted all 250 guests in one shot for a poster sized print. Guess which camera I chose to accomplish the task. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted September 1, 2006 Share #14 Posted September 1, 2006 awww, come on. the cannon sux in comparison to the hassy. different league here, boys! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted September 1, 2006 Share #15 Posted September 1, 2006 ya albert - no way to make comparisons here - defenetly different ligue. marc - im getting mad wit hthe dilemas about that hassy. really dont know. if i want a fully digital for pro works than this is the camera - need 39mega (at least the 22) especially with future possible developments in career. if not going fully with the digi, than maybe adding the 16mega to the hassy v500 will be ok for cases when fast outcome is needed. for the rest - well - selected provia 100 scanned either on imacon or creo scanners (dont have any of them myself yet). anyway, that gives amazing outcome :-))))) this will save for the technorama that i want very much for different apps i do as well and just would like to have this tool (actually concider it as ultimate tool for the specific needs). i dont have money at the moment to buy everything i would concider to be "nice to have" and dont like too much equipment anyway. and about wedding - sure, why not shoot with it if u have it. anyway, when u do project/job/assignment, many times u r carrying some equipment, so not a big deal that the hassy is bigger than canon. the m8 will be probably different story - for fastt lenses and for totally different "leica m" photo making :-) ha marc - i know the h1 hassy... what is the differance between this one with 22megapix and the h2d (excapt that it has that amazing 39 back). is there any differance. never holded the newest one. is that what u have? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted September 1, 2006 Share #16 Posted September 1, 2006 My interest in MF has always been simply that I like composing in a square sometimes (without having to crop and give up some resolution). I could get REALLY interested in the square back for the V cameras, plus a "super-wide" front end. Once they hit the used market. Crop factor with the 38mm Biogon actually makes it a more useful all-around documentary lens - and it has the resolution to handle the cropping. (That's one advantage to the pixel race - pixel-chasing bozos dump their perfectly good "obsolete" cameras after 2 years, giving the rest of us a shot a them.) I wish some manufacturer would get a wild hair and produce a SQUARE 10-15 Mpixel sensor at the largest size possible using standard chip technology - likely about the size of a cropped Canon 1D (not Ds) frame. With lenses to match (equivalent of 40 to 150 or 180 on a 'blad/Rollei). Digital Diane Arbus - Irving Penn - Ralph Eugene Meatyard - ooo! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vic vic Posted September 1, 2006 Share #17 Posted September 1, 2006 adan - no biogon 38 on v unless u use the dedicated body of course. but there is the modern 40mm both on rollei and on hassy, very expenssive though. it will function more or less like the 50 to 60 mm lens equivalent on the normal film hassy. thats is ok for most uses. if u want digi back and really wide lenses on it - alpa is the choice there. there are amazing schneider lenses for it - 28 and 35 mm for digi foto as well as other focals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billh Posted September 2, 2006 Share #18 Posted September 2, 2006 Not until now and unlike to be in the near future i've been asked to supplie a picture that will be diplayed on a scyscrapersize facade.If any of you would like me to perform such a job, I will seriously think of buying this grand digicam. Until now I'm humble enough to be pleased with a modest M8. Thank you. Fr. What kind of dog is that? It looks a bit like a Bouvier, but it is so small and dark that I can't tell for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted September 2, 2006 Share #19 Posted September 2, 2006 I love it. No DSLR even comes close to the image quality... and never will. Ok ... at least someone on a Leica board admits, there's something - better than a Leica. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frc Posted September 2, 2006 Share #20 Posted September 2, 2006 Hi Billh, It's a labrit. These are the hardworking shepparddogs of the perenees. Its father ( Pitchoun ) and mother ( Belle ) i've personaly imported from the south of France. This is one of the 24 pups out of three nests. The only one my girlfriend and I kept. We've finnished breeding now, back on the camera. It took me a while to think of an avatar, but our barking friend Dakar so much resembles my hairdo, that I knew when I saw this picture, this had to be my icon. Wraff... Fr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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