nhmitchell Posted February 1, 2008 Share #21 Posted February 1, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) goodbokeh: Is it difficult to get used to a lens that doesn't have the aperture ring? That's one of the features of the two Pana/Leica lenses I have that I really appreciate. Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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goodbokeh Posted February 2, 2008 Author Share #22 Posted February 2, 2008 goodbokeh: Is it difficult to get used to a lens that doesn't have the aperture ring? That's one of the features of the two Pana/Leica lenses I have that I really appreciate. Nick It's not difficult Nick, just press the top deck function 1 button and use the dial on the back to change the aperture setting. That being said, having the aperture ring on the lens is for me a much nicer setup in terms of function and appearance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonQuijote Posted February 2, 2008 Share #23 Posted February 2, 2008 Well, this only tells that you don't know better But why are you worried, if you have the best camera in the world and the best glass, you just could ignore other opinions Just take your gear, make great photos and do not look around what else is available I don't think he is worried nor is any of the other Leica users in the forum - they know they have bought into quality. Please don't confuse your opinion and unsubstantiated statements (you not being a test chart guy - then again lab test are the only way to objectively test the physical performance characteristics of equipment in a consistent and in a repeatable manner). It takes a bit more than having the best equipment to create great photographs. Also if you think Leica equipment and the 4/3rds system are examples of inferior engineering and manufacturing quality what are you doing in this forum you should be hanging out in Nikon-Fan pages. Most of your posts spread negativity - don't get me wrong there is a good place for constructive criticism based on facts and evidence but you do not provide any even though you have been asked to do so. When comparing products one needs to compare "like items" (same purpose, price range, similar specs etc) and using some "measurable test" rather than "talk in absolute terms based on individual experience". For you to do this this must mean that you are the measure of what is right or wrong - thus you must be an Uebermensch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted February 2, 2008 Share #24 Posted February 2, 2008 This is indeed a very negative post from your side. Why are you taking party for somebody else? Is this other guy not up to defending his own opinion? What you are stating here is completely untrue and I would strongly recommend you read more carefully before posting such ..... And I find this a very appropriate place for me to hang around, since I am using lot of digital Leica gear (DMR, M8, Digilux3, Dlux3, Dlux2) - what are you using? To also be a Nikon photographer does not mean you cannot be active here:confused: And BTW - you are an ANONYMO - NO IDENTITY, not even ready to post your full name And you dare to tell other people what to say here ? Come on Register your full name and then talk to me again !!! I rather belief that you consider yourself to be an ÜBERMENSCH ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodbokeh Posted February 3, 2008 Author Share #25 Posted February 3, 2008 This is indeed a very negative post from your side. Why are you taking party for somebody else? Is this other guy not up to defending his own opinion? What you are stating here is completely untrue and I would strongly recommend you read more carefully before posting such ..... And I find this a very appropriate place for me to hang around, since I am using lot of digital Leica gear (DMR, M8, Digilux3, Dlux3, Dlux2) - what are you using? To also be a Nikon photographer does not mean you cannot be active here:confused: And BTW - you are an ANONYMO - NO IDENTITY, not even ready to post your full name And you dare to tell other people what to say here ? Come on Register your full name and then talk to me again !!! I rather belief that you consider yourself to be an ÜBERMENSCH ! Well Peter, I'm glad to see that you kept your Digilux 3 while relingushing your Olympus E3, Good Move! You didn't sell the Digilux 3, why not? Why did you say the Digilux 3 wasn't a good idea for me, when you kept yours and said goodbye the E3??? I think you are full of horse hockey Peter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonQuijote Posted February 3, 2008 Share #26 Posted February 3, 2008 This is indeed a very negative post from your side. Why are you taking party for somebody else? Is this other guy not up to defending his own opinion? What you are stating here is completely untrue and I would strongly recommend you read more carefully before posting such ..... And I find this a very appropriate place for me to hang around, since I am using lot of digital Leica gear (DMR, M8, Digilux3, Dlux3, Dlux2) - what are you using? To also be a Nikon photographer does not mean you cannot be active here And BTW - you are an ANONYMO - NO IDENTITY, not even ready to post your full name And you dare to tell other people what to say here ? Come on Register your full name and then talk to me again !!! I rather belief that you consider yourself to be an ÜBERMENSCH ! Peter, I will speak up whenever I think something is wrong no matter whether it is on behalf of other people or not. Now, if I have misunderstood you then please correct me and set the facts straight: 1. My impression of your past posts have been that you believe the D Summilux not be a good lens. Plenty of Summilux owners contradicted your view and your problem seemed to be related to the camera anyway. You also compared a D3 lens to an M8 lens - sorry these products are not similar items thus any comparison is invalid. Different price bracket and thus performance. 2.You got rid of your 4/3rds gear because it is just not good enough. Wrong? You are correct one can be a Nikon/Canon user as well as Leica user and participate. If I believe another product brand to be superior then I would for example not hang-around the Pentax user forum and try to trash their products. If I had constructive criticism I would provide facts to back it up. I am an ex-Canon user (sold all my gear) - now use Dlux2 and the Digilux-3 (including Summilux). I also have some other compacts I use for the beach (due to the absence of dust/water seals on Leica gear). You will have noticed that a large number of users do not post their full names, and this is for good reason - a lot of people choose these days to maintain internet privacy (junkmail etc). It has no bearing on your ability to understand or respond to my comments. If I am wrong I am happy to be corrected - but only as a result of reason, logic, facts and evidence. I am also someone who apologises when he is wrong. Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted February 3, 2008 Share #27 Posted February 3, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) @ Michael Several things to answer, but most importantly: I am still a very passionate Leica user, actually more tan ever, since I brought my M8 and M glass to work perfectly now! I sold my DMR, because I am waiting for the R10 where I really look forward to the FF and the combination of this and the PERFECT quality of the R glass (future incarnations). Having said that, my intention was to bridge my DSLR time till then with the Digilux3 and E3 and several FT glass. Unfortunately two issues came up - my 1,4/25 was not as good as obviously those of others here and my E3 had focus issues especially with that lens. Think of that I wanted to use this lens for available light with aperture wide open and I found that it could not focus 80% of these conditions without AF assist. AF assist on the E3 means built in strobo flash, or using an external flash, both configs which I do NOT accept for avilable light photography! And since the AF issues with my E3 also under normal conditions with the 12-60, I was finally fed up and sold this gear - obviously it was a mistake from my side to buy in. I am and was all the time a FF proponent, I always hated Crop and so I decided - since I have lot of FF Nikon glass around - to go for the D3 with the money I could get out of selling my FT gear. And I am looking forward to this great camera, which I already could run through some rather intensive tests. And the results are astonishing! Now for the R10 and future AF glass: I am confident that will be outstanding quality, so I may end up with an R10 and some lenses as well. But I or sure will not sink my money in some very expensive AF glass as super telephoto for the R10 (if the will ever be available) but rather use for general purpose DSLR work the Nikon system and their extreme teleglass. For the anonymity, I really hate this, but I must say I also do consider to go this path, since I am seeing lot of disadvantages by being present with your real identity in the Internet - especially if this can be easily coordinated also with your professional and private side. Have a great day! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhmitchell Posted February 3, 2008 Share #28 Posted February 3, 2008 Goodbokeh: A follow up on the question of setting aperture: I have programmed Function 1 to access "film setting." I don't see an option to set aperture. Perhaps the option is only available with a lens that does not have the aperture ring. Is this the case? ( BTW:I missed the rebate by one day so I have held off ordering one. I have ben led to believe that another rebate program is imminent.) Thanks, Nick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodbokeh Posted February 3, 2008 Author Share #29 Posted February 3, 2008 @ Michael Several things to answer, but most importantly: I am still a very passionate Leica user, actually more tan ever, since I brought my M8 and M glass to work perfectly now! I sold my DMR, because I am waiting for the R10 where I really look forward to the FF and the combination of this and the PERFECT quality of the R glass (future incarnations). Having said that, my intention was to bridge my DSLR time till then with the Digilux3 and E3 and several FT glass. Unfortunately two issues came up - my 1,4/25 was not as good as obviously those of others here and my E3 had focus issues especially with that lens. Think of that I wanted to use this lens for available light with aperture wide open and I found that it could not focus 80% of these conditions without AF assist. AF assist on the E3 means built in strobo flash, or using an external flash, both configs which I do NOT accept for avilable light photography! And since the AF issues with my E3 also under normal conditions with the 12-60, I was finally fed up and sold this gear - obviously it was a mistake from my side to buy in. I am and was all the time a FF proponent, I always hated Crop and so I decided - since I have lot of FF Nikon glass around - to go for the D3 with the money I could get out of selling my FT gear. And I am looking forward to this great camera, which I already could run through some rather intensive tests. And the results are astonishing! Now for the R10 and future AF glass: I am confident that will be outstanding quality, so I may end up with an R10 and some lenses as well. But I or sure will not sink my money in some very expensive AF glass as super telephoto for the R10 (if the will ever be available) but rather use for general purpose DSLR work the Nikon system and their extreme teleglass. For the anonymity, I really hate this, but I must say I also do consider to go this path, since I am seeing lot of disadvantages by being present with your real identity in the Internet - especially if this can be easily coordinated also with your professional and private side. Have a great day! Well Peter, I asked you a head on question about your Digilux 3 comment to me, because you do not follow your own advice, and then you dodge the question by not responding.......Your credibility with me is right down on the deck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodbokeh Posted February 3, 2008 Author Share #30 Posted February 3, 2008 Goodbokeh: A follow up on the question of setting aperture: I have programmed Function 1 to access "film setting." I don't see an option to set aperture. Perhaps the option is only available with a lens that does not have the aperture ring. Is this the case? ( BTW:I missed the rebate by one day so I have held off ordering one. I have ben led to believe that another rebate program is imminent.) Thanks, Nick Hi Nick Yes, when an Olympus lens is mounted on a D3/L1, the Function 1 button is automatically converted to the aperture control button. Push it and then the wheel on the back can be rotated to go off of aperture program on to the aperture of your choice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhmitchell Posted February 3, 2008 Share #31 Posted February 3, 2008 G: thanks. That's what I assumed since I couldn't access that function. Enjoy shooting, N. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted February 4, 2008 Share #32 Posted February 4, 2008 Well Peter, I asked you a head on question about your Digilux 3 comment to me, because you do not follow your own advice, and then you dodge the question by not responding.......Your credibility with me is right down on the deck. I was not answering to you and I am also not around here to babysit guys like you. And guess what - I do not give a s... on my credibility with you :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMAphoto Posted February 6, 2008 Share #33 Posted February 6, 2008 So this thread started about the 7-14mm and ends with credibility issues....sheeesh BTW I have a Digilux 3 and am thinking of getting the 7-14mm over the Canon 10-22 for my 40D, please convince me to do so Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted February 6, 2008 Share #34 Posted February 6, 2008 So this thread started about the 7-14mm and ends with credibility issues....sheeesh BTW I have a Digilux 3 and am thinking of getting the 7-14mm over the Canon 10-22 for my 40D, please convince me to do so Go for the 7-14. You won't be disapointed. Be prepared for nose heavy ....................... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gIzzE Posted February 6, 2008 Share #35 Posted February 6, 2008 This is meant to be a place where we can discuss our new toys and get excited with like minded people, mainly because if we try and chat to our wifes, girlfriends, boyfriends etc. about them they start to fall asleep. So good on you goodbokeh mate, I love to here peoples thoughts on new gear. It would be a shame if people stopped posting on here because certain members have already written about a product or experienced it 3 years ago. I am sure we have been discussing the Digilux2 for years and the M8, so do we stop talking about it now?? Of course not! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodbokeh Posted February 7, 2008 Author Share #36 Posted February 7, 2008 This is meant to be a place where we can discuss our new toys and get excited with like minded people, mainly because if we try and chat to our wifes, girlfriends, boyfriends etc. about them they start to fall asleep. So good on you goodbokeh mate, I love to here peoples thoughts on new gear. It would be a shame if people stopped posting on here because certain members have already written about a product or experienced it 3 years ago. I am sure we have been discussing the Digilux2 for years and the M8, so do we stop talking about it now?? Of course not! Thanks Guy! Up until I got the Digilux 3, film was my medium and digital just left me cold. I'm glad that I can post my thoughts about Leica and the 4/3rds system on this forum. I sure like my new 7-14mm, even if it is a three year old design. I'm looking forward to Photokina and all the new Leica news! I sure hope the promised 50-150mm Leica D IS lens arrives by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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