Leica champion finally frustrated with Leica SL3, help!

[jaapv]

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What is over-manipulation, given that the noise reduction in LR is AI now as well. You could get around it by converting in DXO, I suppose; it is not labelled AI AFAIK. 

[ALScott]

Totally with you, it's vague at best and looking at past winners I can't believe none of them have used noise reduction.  I have thought about calling to ask someone but I doubt that will get anywhere.  May call anyway just to see. 

[jaapv]

I think that the distinction to generative AI is lost on them - anyway, as Adobe has AI-driven tools all over the place it is a lost battle anyway.

[Jeff S]

No matter, soon the judges will be AI tools.

[PhotoCruiser]

In Italy during underwater photography contests the photographer has to hand the SD card immediately after the dive and entering the boat to the judge aboard to avoid manipulations. This is already many years like this, long before AI became widely known and implemented, but will obviously not work for online contest.

However, AI will become a problem for competitions where AI could be used to have a advantage and soon AI will be so good that it's virtually impossible to discover the use of it. 

Honestly i am not really sure if Ai is inside everything where Ai is written on it and guess that many brands use actual buzzword AI to raise sales.

Yes, DOX PureRaw does not mention AI, i will download a evaluation copy to check if it's in fact reasonable better than same LrC functions.

Chris
 

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by PhotoCruiser

[jaapv]

Well, given that cameras use AI for AF and matrix metering and who knows what is in the pipeline, there are other complications. However, insisting on the use of Content Credentials should go a long way to resolving these dilemmas. 

[Stuart Richardson]

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I think the contests are trying to grapple with the full detachment from reality that is now possible with the sophistication and ease of AI tools and generative models. If they want the work to be representative of the real observable universe then they have to draw the line somewhere, and limiting the use of AI post process editing is a better demarcation than most. 
 

Edited 1 hour ago by Stuart Richardson

[jaapv]

Yes - but lumping non-generative AI tools like noise reduction or AI selection together with generative AI obscures the line to be drawn.