andybarton Posted January 12, 2008 Share #1 Posted January 12, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) My chemistry arrived yesterday, so I took the plunge and ran a couple of rolls of E6 through the R4/28 One roll of Astia, one of old Velvia 50 Processed in Tetenal 3 bath chemistry, according to the instructions in the Tetenal box, not the Jobo website. Added 1:30 to the initial development for Fuji (takes longer to get through to Fuji than it does to Kodak, apparently) Here are some shots of the set up and, the reveal. The films are drying now, but I will scan and post some results later. The only difficult part is getting a sufficient volume of 38degC water for the washing processes - make sure you have a full tank of hot water if you want to try this yourself. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/42546-e6-results-home-processing/?do=findComment&comment=450074'>More sharing options...
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earleygallery Posted January 12, 2008 Share #3 Posted January 12, 2008 Andy, Did you have to 'expose' the film halfway through or is it all chemical process? I used to process my own films B&W Color and slide and do my own prints. Loved Cibachrome. That was about 20 yrs ago now I want to get back into doing my own B&W, for practical reasons, but will probably carry on with Boots/Snappy Snaps for C41 and slides. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share #4 Posted January 12, 2008 James No, it's all done chemically these days. You do need a Jobo, preferably with a lift, but once you have everything up to temperature (which takes a couple of hours), it's dead easy. Here's a Velvia 50 example (Only corrected for perspective in PS) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/42546-e6-results-home-processing/?do=findComment&comment=450117'>More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 12, 2008 Share #5 Posted January 12, 2008 Nothing wrong with those results Andy! Well done for 1st attempt. Are you going to start taking orders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted January 12, 2008 Share #6 Posted January 12, 2008 Hi Andy, pleased to see that it all worked ok. That Jobo looks awfully familiar <grin>. James, if you want to shoot a lot of 'real' b&w then home processing is the way to go - and it doesn't cost a lot to buy all the equipment. No need for a darkroom, a changing bag will do the jib. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 12, 2008 Author Share #7 Posted January 12, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) I am pleased with the results Here's an Astia example - no great shakes as an image, but the rest of the film is better I'll post some more in Landscape etc tomorrow Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/42546-e6-results-home-processing/?do=findComment&comment=450148'>More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 12, 2008 Share #8 Posted January 12, 2008 Here's an Astia example - no great shakes as an image, but the rest of the film is better Methinks he doth protest too much! That's an excellent image Andy, I'd have that one on the wall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent10D Posted January 12, 2008 Share #9 Posted January 12, 2008 Very impressive Andy! Looks professional enough to me! Nice looking darkroom setup too, although I'm not familiar with the large white processing machine with the circular windowed door that's visible in a couple of those photos. You're a brave man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker Posted January 12, 2008 Share #10 Posted January 12, 2008 I admire a man who keeps a bottle of Port in his darkroom! I've been eyeing one of these Jobos on the Second-hand Darkroom Supplies website. I might give it a try myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted January 12, 2008 Share #11 Posted January 12, 2008 Presumably you are complying with COSHH regulations? I'm guessing that this little scene was played out while the boss was out of the house? Result looks very good; how much do you want for the DMR? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTD Posted January 13, 2008 Share #12 Posted January 13, 2008 Well done. Never tried E6 at home – given my hatred of any darkroom work – don't think I'll be trying to emulate you either ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikau Posted January 13, 2008 Share #13 Posted January 13, 2008 I have been wondering about E6 home processing. Have many years experience with b&w and am not frightened about having a go. However, I might only want to do one roll every two weeks. I understand that the chemicals have to be mixed in a batch, not bit by bit, and that their shelf life is not that long. Can anyone comment on this? I realise the value of having a Jobo, but would you dare try it using ordinary tanks, kept to the right temperature in a tub of water (ie the cheap way!) Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted January 13, 2008 Share #14 Posted January 13, 2008 I do not think it's wise trying producing top E-6 slides with a tube of water. The E-6 process is rather critical in temperature (37,8 +/- 0,3) and afterall no correction is possible anymore. If you want to do your own color work in a tube of water you can try a C41 development which is less critical in temperature and you can correct some small adjustments later if really necessary. E-6 and C41 chemicals you can use for a few weeks in the working solution. In C41 there are still some manufacturers of small kits which you allowed to develop 6 films 135-36 or equivalent 120 roll films in that period. The best is to develop 3x2 batches of C41 films in that way: 3:15 Min developing time on 37,8 +1 -/- 1,5 degrees C, for the Amaloco mononegacolor kit K54 suitable for 4x 6 films. So the (C41) developer is split off in 4 small bottles. Also the blix is included: 6:30 Min. on > 35 degrees C, so already more tolerance. http://shop.fotohuisrovo.nl/product_info.php?cPath=31_46&products_id=166 Due to the fact the whole process is standard the results and handling is easy except from the handling of the right temperature. But if you have a jobo TBE-2 or an equivalent temperature regulating water bath, it's already possible to do it. Concerning the price the advantages are limited due to the fact C41 (and also E-6) development is still not very expensive. However the saving in time, perfect (never scratches or damaged) negatives (especially the roll films) can be a big advantage to do it yourself. best regards, Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted January 13, 2008 Share #15 Posted January 13, 2008 and what do you think of C41 home processing in the garden when you have a really hot summer Almost 37 degrees C....... The necessary chemicals The set up (Indeed, on the BBQ). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
azzo Posted January 13, 2008 Share #16 Posted January 13, 2008 Nice work Andy. Looking forward to more results. Azzo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted January 14, 2008 Share #17 Posted January 14, 2008 ...although I'm not familiar with the large white processing machine with the circular windowed door that's visible in a couple of those photos. Kent, that's a drum scanner, ...ehh processor . Andy, well done. I'd like to do that myself, too. Cheers, Andy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted January 14, 2008 Author Share #18 Posted January 14, 2008 I do not think it's wise trying producing top E-6 slides with a tube of water.The E-6 process is rather critical in temperature (37,8 +/- 0,3) and afterall no correction is possible anymore. The Jobo has a thermostatically controlled heater in the base that keeps the water bath, and all the chemicals, at the correct temperature. Unless you live in the tropics, I wouldn't recommend using a non-heated bath, as the chemical temperature drops very quickly when ambient is 20degC The basic chemicals will last 6 months in opened bottles, and I am using the made up solution in "one shot" mode. You only need 250ml to process two films. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotohuis Posted January 14, 2008 Share #19 Posted January 14, 2008 The Jobo has a thermostatically controlled heater in the base that keeps the water bath, and all the chemicals, at the correct temperature. And you can improve your preformance of your CPE-2 by an extra circulating (pond)-pump who gives a more equal temperature gradient inside the system. The Jobo CPA or CPP have already such a system and are therefore even more accurate. The same trick you can do in a Jobo TBE-2 and do a manual reverse development inside the water bath. This works also pretty well. The sensor (a PT-100) has enough accuracy to reach the E-6 specs. best regards, Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsteve Posted January 17, 2008 Share #20 Posted January 17, 2008 Andy: I used to develop all my slide film in a Jobo. I started with one like yours, then went to the bigger CPe-2 so I could make larger Ilfochromes and finally settled on a ATL-1 (computerized and automatic lift mounted to a CPE-2) and an ATL-1000. If you like doing it yourself, it might be worth keeping an eye out for an ATL-1000 or ATL-1500. They are probably pretty cheap now. With either of them, all you do is load the film, fill the chemistry and the machine does the rest. When the process is done, you just do the wetting agent and hang to dry. The only difference between the ATL-1000 and ATL-1500 is the ATL-1500 allows you to make your own programs, rather than run preset programs. The built in programs in both machines included E6, E6 3bath, C41, B&W film, and colour and B&W print processing. With the ATL machines you need a tempered water supply for the wash cycles. Robert Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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