After 4 weeks testing SL3-S

[Jan1985]

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After 4 weeks testing the SL3-S I'm still not 100% sure if I should keep it and sell my M11 for it. I purchased the Sigma 28-45mm 1.8 because I also do videography and mostly event photography such as weddings. The sigma is a great lens for this purpose. The flip screen of the SL3-S is almost really cool to use for video stuff.

But I still think about if buying an SL2-S and adding an external monitor to it would do the same? same video and image quality? 

[FrozenInTime]

Keep the M11 and buy a Lumix S1II / S1IIE  for video ?

[LocalHero1953]

I use a SL2-S and Blackmagic CC6K for video. It has left me strongly in favour of a large flip screen (BM), and not having to carry another device and its cables, batteries and memory (the monitor). For the video I do (mostly static recording of stage performance), the less extra equipment the better, both for less weight, and quicker set up. I doubt you'd notice better video quality with the SL3-S but you would find the flip screen more useful.

In favour of a separate monitor is that I find the SL2-S screen a bit small compared to the BM, and it is less well designed for touch use in operation. It would also allow you to record video in raw (only the BM can record raw internally - no other L-mount brand can).

 

Edit. As far as I can see, Panasonic's main advantage over the SL2-S or SL3-S is lower price - which is good in itself - but for the stills, I prefer the Leica body, menus etc. You would still need an external device for recording raw video and giving you a larger monitor.

Edit 2. I have had a couple of problems with the SL2-S where it has told me my SD cards (Sandisk 256Gb, 300mb/s V90 etc) are too slow for video. They are fine most of the the time; I'm beginning to wonder if those occasions have been when I am recording video on cards that had already been used for stills. This is perhaps a sign of caution for using the same body for both stills and video.

Edited July 28 by LocalHero1953

[Jan1985]

vor 7 Minuten schrieb LocalHero1953:

I use a SL2-S and Blackmagic CC6K for video. It has left me strongly in favour of a large flip screen (BM), and not having to carry another device and its cables, batteries and memory (the monitor). For the video I do (mostly static recording of stage performance), the less extra equipment the better, both for less weight, and quicker set up. I doubt you'd notice better video quality with the SL3-S but you would find the flip screen more useful.

In favour of a separate monitor is that I find the SL2-S screen a bit small compared to the BM, and it is less well designed for touch use in operation. It would also allow you to record video in raw (only the BM can record raw internally - no other L-mount brand can).

 Interesting. Yes BMCC6K is a nice tool. I sometimes being able to use it on some jobs. The only downside. You don't have something likes IBIS and material can be really shaky. Even with post-stabilization the material looks sometimes odd and distorted.

So maybe the SL3-S is a nice 2 ins 1 solution with ability for photo and video paired with the Sigma.

[LocalHero1953]

1 minute ago, Jan1985 said:

 Interesting. Yes BMCC6K is a nice tool. I sometimes being able to use it on some jobs. The only downside. You don't have something likes IBIS and material can be really shaky. Even with post-stabilization the material looks sometimes odd and distorted.

So maybe the SL3-S is a nice 2 ins 1 solution with ability for photo and video paired with the Sigma.

I record almost always from a tripod, so stabilisation is not an issue. For stabilisation in post, DaVinci Resolve has done a good job for me - I've seen no distortion.

See my last 'Edit', posted after your response, about possible risks of recording stills and video together on the same cards. 

[Stuart Richardson]

I agree with FrozenInTime...it is very hard to fault the Panasonics when it comes to video... I had an S1 that I eventually replaced with an SL2S for video and high ISO, and my impression was that while I preferred having the same interface as my main camera (SL2), and I liked the SL2S color and ergonomics better, I think the Panasonic still had the better video and high ISO performance. 

[Jan1985]

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 The only problem I have with Panasonic is that their UI concept of all the buttons and knobs is too close on what I hat about Sony and why I could never touch it again. The simplicity of Leica UI is unique.

[jaapv]

Actually it is not. The UI concept is quite different from your description. The way to use it is to run through the chapters of the menu, create user profiles for the settings you use and then flip the screen closed; you don’t need it any more. The camera UI is near-analog   You control it by the wheels and maybe a button or two for AF and ISO. 
 

Both Leica and Panasonic have their strengths and preference is personal but neither is superior. When shooting SL I prefer Leica, when shooting Panasonic S I prefer their implementation. 

[Stuart Richardson]

1 hour ago, Jan1985 said:

 The only problem I have with Panasonic is that their UI concept of all the buttons and knobs is too close on what I hat about Sony and why I could never touch it again. The simplicity of Leica UI is unique.

I definitely vastly preferred it to Sony. In the old days I had an A7S for video, before the S1 came out. The S1 was better in every possible way, including interface and menus. It is not using a Leica style interface, but it has its own well-thought out system. I found that I typically did not need to go too deep into the settings that often.