Anthony MD Posted June 16 Share #1 Posted June 16 Advertisement (gone after registration) Through research and communication with Leica, the M240 and M262 cameras have the same sensor but render colors differently! It seems the sensor of the M240, although identical to the sensor in the M262, has more to deal with because of the video capabilities and can’t render colors as good as a sensor without video…! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anthony MD Posted June 16 Author Share #2 Posted June 16 2 minutes ago, Anthony MD said: Through research and communication with Leica, the M240 and M262 cameras have the same sensor but render colors differently! It seems the sensor of the M240, although identical to the sensor in the M262, has more to deal with because of the video capabilities and can’t render colors as good as a sensor without video…! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/422206-same-sensor-different-colors%E2%80%A6/?do=findComment&comment=5818736'>More sharing options...
Carlos cruz Posted June 16 Share #3 Posted June 16 It can be much worse, on multi camera shoots having same brand, model cameras set to same WB, same stop, lens form same set etc they can vary, it’s usually blamed on the age or work hours that each sensor has been through. That’s when it’s worth to use grey card so your colourist can match the difference. In earlier days of digital cameras colours could drift quite a bit from morning shots to evening ones with same light setup (sensors temperature management was a culprit) When shooting with different brand/models the difference in colour rendition can be almost impossible to match, as every brand has different approach to processing signal from sensor. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted June 16 Share #4 Posted June 16 It’s not the sensor. It’s the image engine. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted June 16 Author Share #5 Posted June 16 3 hours ago, jdlaing said: It’s not the sensor. It’s the image engine. Don’t actually understand the image engine…📷 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted June 16 Author Share #6 Posted June 16 4 hours ago, Carlos cruz said: It can be much worse, on multi camera shoots having same brand, model cameras set to same WB, same stop, lens form same set etc they can vary, it’s usually blamed on the age or work hours that each sensor has been through. That’s when it’s worth to use grey card so your colourist can match the difference. In earlier days of digital cameras colours could drift quite a bit from morning shots to evening ones with same light setup (sensors temperature management was a culprit) When shooting with different brand/models the difference in colour rendition can be almost impossible to match, as every brand has different approach to processing signal from sensor. The M-D 262 has no screen to adjust white balance…📷 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Michel Posted June 17 Share #7 Posted June 17 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 4 hours ago, jdlaing said: It’s not the sensor. It’s the image engine. Don’t actually understand the image engine…📷 There is really no such thing as a colour sensor. The pixels receive a certain amount of light and send that information to the processor, nothing to do with colour. So, Bryce Bayer, a scientist working at Kodak, figured out a way to record colour: put red, green and blue filters in front of the sensor pixels in a particular array. The array. known as the Bayer array. uses two green filtered pixels next to one red and one blue pixel, Each of these pixels need to query its neighbour about the value of each other's pixel., The 'engine' or processor applies some form of magical mathematical or statistical formula to make up a coloured image — I only suffered through a Stats 101 course and that was too much headache so I switched to Photo Arts instead!. Look at your metadata, your 24 megapixels sensor ends up as a 45 to 50 megabytes file. You then develop that further in your preferred raw processor: CameraRaw, LR, Capture One, etc. each of those have some basic formula for developing various camera model files, and each have a bunch of profiles to choose from, and so on. The raw capture data is only a start, just a negs were in film days. Edited June 17 by Jean-Michel typos 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted June 17 Share #8 Posted June 17 13 hours ago, Anthony MD said: Don’t actually understand the image engine…📷 The sensor doesn’t and can’t work alone. It takes processors and software to turn ones and zeros into a photograph. All those parts and pieces are the image engine. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted June 17 Share #9 Posted June 17 the OP should try using RAWDigger to understand what the camera actually shoots 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted June 17 Author Share #10 Posted June 17 1 minute ago, frame-it said: the OP should try using RAWDigger to understand what the camera actually shoots My M-D 262 shoots only RAW…📷 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony MD Posted June 17 Author Share #11 Posted June 17 My obsolete Mac Desk Top can’t download LR, Capture One or CameraRaw. It has a simple way of editing that I love…📷 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted June 17 Share #12 Posted June 17 Minor point re Mr Overgaard’s report…the Edition 60 isn’t titanium but lacquered stainless steel (I should know 😉) 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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