8ZLGHDN Posted May 13 Share #1 Posted May 13 Advertisement (gone after registration) So, got my iiif and currently trying the first roll. After loading I set the counter to zero, and the dial is advancing nicely. However… I discovered I can turn the dial freely, thus moving the dial away from the indicator pointing to the current frame. Normal? Feature, or fault? Here it is, btw. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/421208-iiif-film-counter/?do=findComment&comment=5801250'>More sharing options...
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erl Posted May 13 Share #2 Posted May 13 Nice looking cam and good to see you have the 50mm aux finder. Essential in my view. The frame counter should turn freely with clicks in the anticlockwise direction by using the two 'bumps' on the scale, only. This is how you set it. It should not turn clockwise, except when driven by the film winder mechanism. Edit: Closer exam of your pic makes me suspicious. The screw next to the VF looks wrong. Too big and damaged. There should be another screw below the RH round VF window on the right, as viewed in the pic, and another just above your thumb in the pic. Are you sure it is a genuine item? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8ZLGHDN Posted May 13 Author Share #3 Posted May 13 Ah, so I am reading the manual correctly. Thank you. Well, I can turn the counter in either direction, without real resistance. No click or grinding feeling. And with turning I don’t mean spinning freely like a whirlybird; just turning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted May 13 Share #4 Posted May 13 Hmm. Your cam may be a different version from mine. I don't have the self timer mechanism, but the counter definitely only turns anticlockwice with a click for each position. Definitely not clockwise by hand. Wait awhile. Greater knowledge than mine will tune in with better advice when they check in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzy Posted May 13 Share #5 Posted May 13 vor 31 Minuten schrieb erl: There should be another screw below the RH round VF window on the right, as viewed in the pic, and another just above your thumb in the pic not really, these scerws (2 in front, 2 at the back) were gone at around serial 630xxx, Leica modified the way how the top cover was fixed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzy Posted May 13 Share #6 Posted May 13 vor 28 Minuten schrieb 8ZLGHDN: Well, I can turn the counter in either direction, without real resistance. No click or grinding feeling looks like the disc of film counter is damaged, there is a sort of ratchet build into the disc, if you do not hear click means rachet is not working properly, Could be spring inside broken, could be dirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzy Posted May 13 Share #7 Posted May 13 Advertisement (gone after registration) ... this is how the film counter disc looks, within the brass ring is the ratchet i meant. If you have 2 mm screwdriver and some skills how you may try to rermove and clean the disc in lighter fluid. Removing the wind knob is a bit tricky, I may give you some hints if you decided to do it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/421208-iiif-film-counter/?do=findComment&comment=5801262'>More sharing options...
8ZLGHDN Posted May 13 Author Share #8 Posted May 13 @jerzy yeah, I could do that. Hints appreciated, thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerzy Posted May 13 Share #9 Posted May 13 Leave bottom cover and film spool inside the camera. In case you do not see the mud screw in the hole lift and rotate knob by one step and release. Repeat this untril you will see the screw. Losen the screw by 1-1,5 turns max., not more, otherwise parts of the knob will separate and you will have problems in getting it right back. Unscrew the knob. Lift film counter, leave the middle gear inside. Wash the whole dial in loighter fluid, rotate the inner part of the dial when in bath. Let it dry before mounting. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Not sure if this bath will help, could be that ratchet is broken inside. In such case Dial shall be replaced (or left as it is) 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Not sure if this bath will help, could be that ratchet is broken inside. In such case Dial shall be replaced (or left as it is) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/421208-iiif-film-counter/?do=findComment&comment=5801462'>More sharing options...
8ZLGHDN Posted May 13 Author Share #10 Posted May 13 Thank you, will try this when I have some time. Seems easy enough. Will report back once I’m done. Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_livsey Posted May 13 Share #11 Posted May 13 That could be the easiest repair I have ever seen for a Barnack 😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8ZLGHDN Posted May 13 Author Share #12 Posted May 13 (edited) Locating the screw to loosen the turning knob couldn’t have been easier. Almost too easy. It was already visible in the opening for it in between the knurly bits. Mmm… Anyway - dirt is not the problem. If indeed the inverse cog wheel in the centre of the frame counter is supposed to have a ratcheting function, it ain’t working. I presume the off-center fit of the take-up spool axis cog wheel into the inverse cog wheel is normal? If so, I could find another - working - film counter ring, or just leave it and use my noggin to track frames, in case I move the counter, as I’m sure I will. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited May 13 by 8ZLGHDN Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/421208-iiif-film-counter/?do=findComment&comment=5801613'>More sharing options...
jerzy Posted May 14 Share #13 Posted May 14 Yes, off centerings on purpose, this is how counter moves one stroke only when spanning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8ZLGHDN Posted May 17 Author Share #14 Posted May 17 A new used, and according to seller properly ratcheting ring, is on its way, Here’s hoping… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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