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vor 23 Stunden schrieb Corius:

Well, I bought an M11 from MPB in March for £5000. It's like new, fully boxed with all accessories and has been faultless. I was so happy that I got an £8000 camera for £5000!

So, out of interest I checked the trade in value yesterday and it's £2400.

I've gone from having an £8000 camera to a £2400 camera in one day 😀

 

 

As long as you do not sell your m11 you have a 8k Kamera! 
Congratulations and enjoy the shooting with it.

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On 4/28/2025 at 9:29 PM, Al Brown said:

Tbf, would it not be cool if OG would have mentioned MPB UK in the title 😁?

Even more so if I knew were MPB stood for, since to me it’s an abbreviation for MacBook Pro!!

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2 hours ago, Kiwimac said:

Even more so if I knew were MPB stood for, since to me it’s an abbreviation for MacBook Pro!!

MacPook Bro?

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On 4/30/2025 at 12:31 PM, TDog said:

Yup huge hit, they exceed doubling their money on a high value item. Suppose they’re just trying their hand at that price. Can’t see many people selling an m11 for anywhere near that. 

Clearly they had some takers otherwise they wouldn’t have had any stock!

I would never support MPB - truly ridiculous trade in prices and in many cases sell at almost new prices. Not sure why any photographers would use them, they seem a bit ‘ticketmaster’ to me. 
FWIW I do think the camera is actually worth somewhere between 2k and 5k and absolutely nowhere near justifiable at 8k+

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3 minutes ago, Velo-city said:

Clearly they had some takers otherwise they wouldn’t have had any stock!

I would never support MPB - truly ridiculous trade in prices and in many cases sell at almost new prices. Not sure why any photographers would use them, they seem a bit ‘ticketmaster’ to me. 
FWIW I do think the camera is actually worth somewhere between 2k and 5k and absolutely nowhere near justifiable at 8k+

They don’t usually scalp like they are currently with the M11 in my experience. They’re hit and miss depending on what you’re doing, you’ve just got to be selective on what you’re comfortable with. I think them offering £2.5k for an m11 is basically, they do not want any. 

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They had a ‘like new’ M11 in the UK MPB for just over £4.3k a few weeks back. £2.5k trade in is not too far off in that scenario. You’d have to be pretty desperate or really dislike private selling to let it go for that price.

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On 4/30/2025 at 5:31 PM, TDog said:

£8000 camera to a £2400 camera in one day

If it helps it is the M11-P that is £8k, the M11 was a lot less new.

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23 minutes ago, pedaes said:

If it helps it is the M11-P that is £8k, the M11 was a lot less new.

It was £7800 for the original m11

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On 4/27/2025 at 2:41 PM, TDog said:

An abbreviation I should not have used on a Leica forum 😂 on many levels. ‘Original’. 

I just caught this thread a bit late, but am laughing out loud at the "what does OG mean" posts. In a good way, to those who are asking. It's like when I say "that's fire" to my daughter and she recoils and walks out of the room. 

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1 hour ago, eleven24 said:

I just caught this thread a bit late, but am laughing out loud at the "what does OG mean" posts. In a good way, to those who are asking. It's like when I say "that's fire" to my daughter and she recoils and walks out of the room. 

I am not young… in here it really feels like the average age is 70+. Which is absolutely fine, I hope to be here then too. But OG got far too much attention :) 

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15 minutes ago, TDog said:

I am not young… in here it really feels like the average age is 70+. Which is absolutely fine, I hope to be here then too. But OG got far too much attention :) 

I suspect it's more that the average nationality is not North American?

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Who are we blaming here, the guy who bought the camera and now wants to flip it or the people who want to buy it? There is no duty on the potential buyer to offer what seems to be considered a 'better' price after costs. They take the risk of selling it on and adding a warranty and if there are issues with the M11 I'm baffled why a lower price shouldn't be a factor. The market isn't strong for M11's and if/when a new version comes out the prices will go down again. We've lost the traditional connection between a familiar face behind the counter and a long term relationship where 'better' trade-in's are given based on buying patterns, everybody selling gear is now a stranger and should be treated as a stranger for the sake of the business.

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On 5/4/2025 at 3:44 PM, Kiwimac said:

Even more so if I knew were MPB stood for, since to me it’s an abbreviation for MacBook Pro!!

Similarly mystified - I thought it was referring to an MP, black paint …. Seems to be a shop.

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8 hours ago, TDog said:

I’m British. 

So am I. I knew what it meant, but I see it as NAm usage not common here. 
Using abbreviations on an international forum can lead to confusion.
QED.

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41 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said:

Just checked: MPB was founded by a guy called Matt Barker - I can't see it anywhere, but I guess his middle initial is P.

He uses an M10 apparently I read somewhere!

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On 5/6/2025 at 7:47 AM, LocalHero1953 said:

So am I. I knew what it meant, but I see it as NAm usage not common here. 
Using abbreviations on an international forum can lead to confusion.
QED.

Apparently so. To be fair there’s bigger problems in the world, it seems the Leica forum members are pedantically rigid on what they expect to see and read in here, which is obviously fine.… I typed OG, it’s 4 pages in and half the conversation was about that and not the actual subjective post 😁

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