neelin Posted January 7, 2008 Share #1 Posted January 7, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) For what it's worth, I did a little test: RESULTS A: 50 seconds-21 shots recorded. Card was formatted in M8 camera FAT32 42 seconds-21 shots recorded. Card was formatted in XP chose FAT only Test setup: -m8 firmware: 1.110 -shutter set to 1/125, DNG only file generation -4gb Transcend 150x TS4GSD150 SD card -set camera to continuous shooting © and hold shutter & count 20 actuations, then when the red light stops flashing actuate the shutter one more time to record the time. Take the difference in times between the MetaData on the 1st & 21st shots, and show results. RESULTS B: Okay, why did I do this. Although I can normally use my M8 as soon as I turn it on, with this card in the camera (formatted FAT32 in camera) it takes a count of 7 for the LCD indicator on the top of the camera to show any display. Format the card FAT in XP and the top LCD displays on a count of 2. RESULTS C: Transfer 20 DNG files from my usb/SD card reader to my hard drive. 20 FAT32 (M8 formatted) files: 49 seconds 20 FAT (XP formatted) files: 25 seconds Robert (using FAT XP formatted 4gb cards from now on) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ho_co Posted January 7, 2008 Share #2 Posted January 7, 2008 Extremely interesting, Robert! Glad you posted this. Does the camera still predict the same number of files storage capacity when the newly-formatted card is inserted? And the second part of that question is: Can the camera still write more than 2 GB data to the card? I've often wondered why the supposedly 150x card seemed so slow, but was willing to allow the time to get the 4 GB capacity. --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neelin Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share #3 Posted January 7, 2008 shows 380 M8 (FAT32) format; 381FAT format DNG only. (seems reasonable, slightly more efficient use of directory/storage space by FAT at small storage sizes). Formatting in FAT via computer is sanctioned by Leica, see the "FAQ Leica M8" (dec 19, 2007) on the M8 website Note 1.4 suggesting using FAT instead of in camera FAT32 for another bug. FWIW, FAT16 can do 4g, but I do think there are limits on what can be dealt with in the /root directory as far as directory entries, which may mean 2gb in the /root directory (i.e. 512 directory entries x 32kbit /directory entry = 2gbyte). Since we're down in the /dcim subdir I don't think there is a problem. I may just be blowing....but someone more knowledgeable on Windows could pipe-up if the indicated space in the /dcim subdirectory shown as 3.83gb is not really there. It wouldn't be the first time that software reported something that wasn't there, but it would be the first time I was wrong (ducking & running for cover). No really..."I don't REMEMBER ever having forgotten anything in my life" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted January 7, 2008 Share #4 Posted January 7, 2008 Robert-- Bravo! Good observation! I overlooked the note because I hadn't experienced the image numbering issue they mention. You may certainly wait for the more knowledgeable to chime in, but you've already impressed me with both your knowledge and your derring-do! --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barjohn Posted January 7, 2008 Share #5 Posted January 7, 2008 I reported this in a thread about a week ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
okram Posted January 7, 2008 Share #6 Posted January 7, 2008 This card (supposedly) made my camera to occasionally recock the shutter from time to time. It was in the 1.102 fw era. Also (as I remember, because I stopped using it) M8 can only shoot 7 shots to the buffer, while with sandisk EX3 2gb I was able to shoot 11-12 in cont. sequence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neelin Posted January 7, 2008 Author Share #7 Posted January 7, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) This card (supposedly) made my camera to occasionally recock the shutter from time to time. It was in the 1.102 fw era.Also (as I remember, because I stopped using it) M8 can only shoot 7 shots to the buffer, while with sandisk EX3 2gb I was able to shoot 11-12 in cont. sequence. My only personal complaint ever about this card was it appeared to function slower than my Sandisk 2g II card. I just checked it will do the 11-12 shots before filling the buffer. Sorry John, can you link to the other message about SD speedup or file structure. Including the thread in a thread with this heading would be cool for future searchers. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted January 7, 2008 Share #8 Posted January 7, 2008 I don't REMEMBER ever having forgotten anything in my life" Of course you don't. That function is reserved exclusively for wives. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted January 7, 2008 Share #9 Posted January 7, 2008 At one time, a lot of us were excited about finding this card for the M8. Then as I recall, some people started reporting card errors or camera anomalies that they traced to the card. One previously strong advocate of the card reported that after problems, he had relegated the card to emergency use only; others quit using the cards completely. With this formatting tip, maybe those who felt they were having problems with the card should try it again? Perhaps the problems were due to the slow camera/card interaction and would be corrected by formatting the card FAT? --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravastar Posted January 8, 2008 Share #10 Posted January 8, 2008 Hmmmm..... As reported in a previous post I had noticed this speedup if the cards (2GB and 4GB) were formatted in a Canon 1D series. However there is an anomaly with the remaining image count when you first switch on the camera, for a 2GB card the intial remaining count is shown as 540 and the correct value of 188 is not shown until after you have taken a picture. There is also this anomaly if the 2GB card is formatted FAT in XP. XP will not let me format a 4GB card to FAT only FAT32 Bob. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted January 8, 2008 Share #11 Posted January 8, 2008 Well, that's that! Now that the D3 is out, we can all go out and buy a used 5D cheap to use just for formatting SD cards. --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
neelin Posted January 8, 2008 Author Share #12 Posted January 8, 2008 XP will not let me format a 4GB card to FAT only FAT32 Bob. bwhhhhhhhaaaaa.....(evil laugh, a trick to fool the Gates of Microsoft).... >control panel>administrative tools>computer management>disk management>right click on the correct disk shown. You should have the option here. Like you I did not have the option off the hop at the usual places in Explorer or other general file utilities. /rant on/ I assume Vista will be just enough different to waste everyone's time on learning where you do this there. My theory of MS operating systems is that there are enough bugs & work-arounds requiring piles of time to just get systems tuned that it thwarts having enough time to mount a serious challenge to building an alternative operating system to windows, and compete with windows. /rantoff/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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