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I don't think they are competitors. The color science is too different. Those who like to shoot wide open won't like the Fuji camera either. There is no stabilization. Why would Leica fans need it?

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Interesting that they mention Q3 in the leaked press release. I can’t quite see how these two cameras compete apart from having similar field of view provided by their lenses. But that’s pretty much it. 

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1 hour ago, Smogg said:

I don't think they are competitors. The color science is too different. Those who like to shoot wide open won't like the Fuji camera either. There is no stabilization. Why would Leica fans need it?

The Fuji X100V didn't have stabilization either, and it was insanely popular. Stabilization was introduced only with the X100VI released last year.

I think the two cameras are competitors, with the Fuji appealing more to landscape shooters and high resolution fans with their 100mp sensor, but less to street photographers who may want a faster lens. I don't think it's aimed at existing Leica Q users, but rather at somebody who's planning to get a new fixed lens camera.

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1 hour ago, Smogg said:

I don't think they are competitors. The color science is too different. Those who like to shoot wide open won't like the Fuji camera either. There is no stabilization. Why would Leica fans need it?

Sometimes I don’t understand why camera manufacturers omit a feature that’s grown to be minimum expectation with a high resolution sensor- no ibis for this or the Sigma fPL, or a higher resolution evf for the Sony A7CR(selling mine and backgrading to a A7RIV) etc. It makes purchasing one of these cameras feel like a compromise, that we had to accept the trade off. Another example, holding off on the SL3 as the feature set isn’t at parity with my SL2. Perhaps the manufacturers know this is how to get us to buy multiple cameras…

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31 minutes ago, Simone_DF said:

The Fuji X100V didn't have stabilization either, and it was insanely popular. Stabilization was introduced only with the X100VI released last year.

I think the two cameras are competitors, with the Fuji appealing more to landscape shooters and high resolution fans with their 100mp sensor, but less to street photographers who may want a faster lens. I don't think it's aimed at existing Leica Q users, but rather at somebody who's planning to get a new fixed lens camera.

In the X100V, stabilization is not a necessity, as the sensor does not have a very high resolution compared to medium format.

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25 minutes ago, Smogg said:

In the X100V, stabilization is not a necessity, as the sensor does not have a very high resolution compared to medium format.

The first GFX iterations didn’t have IBIS either. But to clarify, I’m with you here, I think it was a mistake to skip IBIS, but I also think the camera will sell anyway. 

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5 minutes ago, Simone_DF said:

The first GFX iterations didn’t have IBIS either. But to clarify, I’m with you here, I think it was a mistake to skip IBIS, but I also think the camera will sell anyway. 

There will certainly be people willing to buy it, but I don't think the camera will be a huge success and there will be a line for it.

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When so many people on this forum and elsewhere equate image quality with pixels, then a 100mp fixed lens 28mm (equiv), leaf shutter camera is bound to be seen as a superior competitor to the Q3. And given that Fuji has a bigger market share at a lower price point than Leica, then I'm sure it will get more attention and will be a success. Of course this is nothing to do with whether it's a good camera or not, or whether it takes good images. 

To me it is obviously Fuji's unsubtle answer to the success of the Q ("I want a piece of that").

That's showbiz.

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I don’t get it. Why would this camera be a response to the Leica Q? Fuji has had fixed lens cameras at least since 2010, with the X100, this is just the medium format version of that camera, or am I missing something?

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Will this be a competitor or other option for Q customers? No. Leicas are emotional purchases and not ones based on a spec sheet compared to anything else. So whatever this camera turns out to be, it's not going to impact anyone looking for a Q. 

I'm sure it will be a technical triumph and offer unrivalled IQ. No one else can match Fuji when it comes to lens design or getting the most out of that Sony 102mp sensor but I'm not sure it looks like fun. I guess if you're looking for a reasonably compact camera that will document life as you move through it in incredible HiFi quality then this might be for you but I don't see it being a camera that makes me want to pick up and go find stuff to shoot. Which is a bit sad, as I'd love to like it.

Oh, and can anyone translate this bit into English? Are they saying it's a normal EVF but instead of zooming in when you select a crop or non whole frame aspect ratio, it shows you crop lines to be "a bit like' a rangefinder?

"The new Surround View function limits the shooting zone with semi-transparent areas or lines, depending on the aspect ratio. A lever can be used to turn this function on or off while looking through the electronic viewfinder, simulating an optical viewfinder with a bright frame that reveals more than just the actual image."

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29 minutes ago, Simone_DF said:

I don’t get it. Why would this camera be a response to the Leica Q? Fuji has had fixed lens cameras at least since 2010, with the X100, this is just the medium format version of that camera, or am I missing something?

The x100 fits in a jacket pocket and therefore has a completely different application and audience.

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1 hour ago, Smogg said:

The x100 fits in a jacket pocket and therefore has a completely different application and audience.

But Fuji had fixed lens medium format cameras since the film era, like the GS645W which also had a 28mm equivalent lens, or the GF670, and this new camera seems just like the digital successor of that

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