Evo Posted February 23 Share #41  Posted February 23 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Ironically a vintage 1973 V2 50 Summilux was bestowed upon me from a long time friend along with her father's M5 a few days ago and I've cleaned it up and tested it on my M10. I have to say I really love the vintage character, and it's sharper than I expected wide open. If the new release is the same or better optically they have a winner. I only wish my vintage one focused to 0.7M... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 23 by Evo 15 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419366-modern-classic-leica-summilux-m-50-mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=5762636'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Hi Evo, Take a look here Modern Classic: Leica Summilux-M 50 mm f1.4. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
algrove Posted February 23 Share #42 Â Posted February 23 Leica Miami is not a Leica owned store so I can see why they might not have had one to show. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dscdsc Posted February 24 Share #43 Â Posted February 24 18 hours ago, FrozenInTime said: Even Leica Miami did not get one to show in this program ( scroll to 22mins: shows only stock images and repetition of the marketing material ) Â Â 4 hours ago, algrove said: Leica Miami is not a Leica owned store so I can see why they might not have had one to show. they stated in the stream they were supposed to get one earlier but it was delayed by UPS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynaerik Posted February 24 Share #44  Posted February 24 ... looks like a beautiful around lense for a one camera one lense combination for light travelling. Looks great on the Glossy Black Paint M11 ... a black paint version with that brass body would be a dream.  .....just a wish  4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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slavcho Posted February 25 Share #46 Â Posted February 25 (edited) I wonder if it would be a good complement to the Leica 50 mm f/1.4 Summilux-M ASPH. (11892) or if it could be a good replacement for it (on a M10-R)? Edited February 25 by slavcho Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35photo Posted February 25 Share #47  Posted February 25 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 2/23/2025 at 3:13 PM, Evo said: Ironically a vintage 1973 V2 50 Summilux was bestowed upon me from a long time friend along with her father's M5 a few days ago and I've cleaned it up and tested it on my M10. I have to say I really love the vintage character, and it's sharper than I expected wide open. If the new release is the same or better optically they have a winner. I only wish my vintage one focused to 0.7M... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! I have this same exact lens as well... It really shines for B&W the mid gray tones are to die for! Its the reason I kept it as I ended up also getting a V1 ASPH which I love as well more for color. The Vintage one has good color at times other times I'm not a fan. ASPH is more consistent color rendering for my tastes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 25 Share #48  Posted February 25 (edited) If you really need 0.7m focussing, the Summilux III like I have, has a similar optical cell to the Summilux II but focusses to 0.7m. There is apparently a fair degree of sample variation in the S.III, which can result in an unfortunate degree of aperture shift but the SE lenses with LTM mount were apparently assembled to very high standards, to try and justify the high price charged for them and certainly mine has a perfectly liveable with amount of aperture shift, actually barely noticeable. There is also the theory that the chrome/brass bodies, like the SE uses, made by an outside supplier in Wetzlar, were more accurately machined than the alloy bodies machined in Portugal. However the SE lenses being designed to be usable on LTM cameras, only focus to 1m. There might be something to this theory as my chrome/brass 35mm/1,4 ASPH Summilux, a lens notorious for aperture shift, does not suffer from this to any great extent. When I took it to Solms to get it coded (none of the chrome lenses were coded as production finished in September 2006, just prior to the introduction of coding), I left strict instructions just to change the mount to a coded one and not fiddle with anything else on this close to perfect lens. Wilson Edited February 25 by wlaidlaw Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wipeout Posted February 26 Share #49  Posted February 26 Just took delivery of my 11714 yesterday and had my first chance to try out the new Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4! 📸 My previous 50mm was the 11891 ASPH, so it’s been interesting comparing the two.  Early thoughts: 🔹 Switching from the short focus throw to the long will take some getting used to—miss the speed but love the accuracy. 🔹 This lens has two distinct personalities: At f/5.6–f/8, it’s hard to tell apart from a modern ASPH, but at f/1.4, it’s a whole different beast. 🔹 The bokeh? Swirly, heavy falloff at the edges—amazing. ✨ 🔹 Flare is definitely a thing when shooting into the sun. 🔹 I love how it draws the eye to the centre of the image at f/1.4.  One concern: at close distances and wide open, it’s not as sharp as I’d like.  Still pretty new to the Leica world, so go easy on me! 😅 Curious to hear others’ thoughts—how do you find this lens? 5 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted February 26 Share #50  Posted February 26 1 hour ago, Wipeout said: Curious to hear others’ thoughts—how do you find this lens? Welcome to the Forum. I too have just received my copy. If you look in the M-Lens sub-forum (this sub-forum) you will find three reviews and others comments on the lens's rendering. Your comment that  it is not as sharp as you would like at f1.4 is interesting - maybe post a picture to illustrate. I think most of us were expecting, and indeed wanting, some 'glow' and character wide open. Some have described as 'two lenses in one' - retro at 1.4 and toward modern at 5.6/8 . 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wipeout Posted February 26 Share #51  Posted February 26 4 minutes ago, pedaes said: Welcome to the Forum. I too have just received my copy. If you look in the M-Lens sub-forum (this sub-forum) you will find three reviews and others comments on the lens's rendering. Your comment that  it is not as sharp as you would like at f1.4 is interesting - maybe post a picture to illustrate. I think most of us were expecting, and indeed wanting, some 'glow' and character wide open. Some have described as 'two lenses in one' - retro at 1.4 and toward modern at 5.6/8 . "Glow" would be a good way to describe the lens characteristic. I suppose with such a long throw, the depth of field when shooting close to 0.7M is very narrow. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419366-modern-classic-leica-summilux-m-50-mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=5764102'>More sharing options...
Wipeout Posted February 26 Share #52  Posted February 26 Here is another example of the "glow'  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419366-modern-classic-leica-summilux-m-50-mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=5764103'>More sharing options...
pedaes Posted February 26 Share #53  Posted February 26 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Wipeout said: the depth of field when shooting close to 0.7M is very narrow. Yes - you  certainly need good camera technique to hit focus exactly. I would try a series of shots moving camera forward and back slightly Edited February 26 by pedaes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 26 Share #54  Posted February 26 I wonder if folks put too much store into what they interpret from looking at MTF charts, especially as the Leica ones are computed and not measured. Some years ago I had an office in the Spitalfields area of London, just north of the City of London financial district. This area was often used as a period filming location, due to the presence of 17th and 18th century houses in narrow streets, often originally built for the Huguenot diaspora of silk weavers, fleeing from France after Louis XIV revoked the Edict of Nantes, which had previously granted freedom of worship to adherents of the protestant faith. As someone very interested in photographic technology, I took the opportunity to chat with the Zeiss technician in their beautifully equipped articulated truck, mobile laboratory, that would occasionally accompany a film crew, to ensure their lenses were at optimal performance (alongside the tatty old caravan, pulled by a rusty transit van from Cooke Optical). The Zeiss technician was very happy to chat, as he was bored out of his skull, hanging around all day with little to do. One of the pieces of equipment in the Zeiss trailer, was a K9 Zeiss/Siemens computerised optical bench, which amongst other features can measure modulation transfer function figures and generate charts. I was talking to the technician about the significance of MTF charts. He said that the MTF charts would be specific to the instrument measuring them and can only be compared lens to lens on that one optical bench. His for example was if one looked at the results from a Nikon optical bench, the only other instrument that he felt was of similar quality to the Zeiss K9, the MTF charts on the Nikon bench for the same lens, would differ considerably from those generated from the Zeiss bench. So realistically comparing MTF charts for different lenses, is really only relevant, if they are generated by exactly the same equipment. Computed MTF charts equally I suspect are equally subjective, as to the calculation methodology. Wilson 5 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedaes Posted February 26 Share #55 Â Posted February 26 2 hours ago, Wipeout said: Here is another example of the "glow' Â It's wet here and I have had a little play. The centre sharpness is what I was expecting, but it is very much the 'centre' and falls off very quickly. FWIW. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted February 26 Share #56  Posted February 26 I will try to make some v3 vs. post-ASPH comparisons over the weekend .... on film, so looking at rendering rather than absolute sharpness. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419366-modern-classic-leica-summilux-m-50-mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=5764200'>More sharing options...
lexffm Posted February 26 Share #57  Posted February 26 Stefan @S/W(left in the picture) bought one of the newly interpreted lenses, just like me. We met in the Leica store at the start of our photo walk and Stefan saw the lens on my camera and tried it on his SL3. He was so excited that he immediately bought the last non-reserved lens. The gentleman (on the right in the picture) is the deputy store manager Here is a picture from the M-A (Type 127) with the new Summilux and Kodak Tmax 100 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 13 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419366-modern-classic-leica-summilux-m-50-mm-f14/?do=findComment&comment=5764386'>More sharing options...
darlesch Posted February 26 Share #58  Posted February 26 (edited) I got mine yesterday and I won't repeat what many others have said already. Classic rendering wide open and a modern lens f/2 onwards I'll just add that that the weight wasn't as bad as I feared it would be. The focus throw is long, but I find it helpful for microadjustments to focus but you lose speed for sure which isn't a big deal to me. Last but not least, I was surprised that the focus shift on this lens isn't as bad as the Steelrim (2023) for comparison. Focus shift peaks at f/2.8 (still very usable) then recovers nicely f/4 onward. 0.7 MFD lovers rejoice. Nice bokeh, nice portraits. I think any future owners will enjoy this lens. Edited February 26 by darlesch 9 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted March 1 Share #59 Â Posted March 1 The long focus throw just might keep in on the side lines for a long time. I love my V3 with nice retractable hood. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 1 Share #60  Posted March 1 4 hours ago, algrove said: The long focus throw just might keep in on the side lines for a long time. I love my V3 with nice retractable hood. We may need to start a V3 owners' club 😎 Wilson 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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