evikne Posted February 18 Share #21 Posted February 18 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, costa43 said: If that MTF is accurate then it’s quite possible that Leica are remaking the original Summilux Pre Asph but with a closer focusing distance and more modern coatings. It makes sense that Leica reissue the first in the line. Off topic but I wish Leica did the same with the Steel Rim reissue, rather than leave it at 1m. Actually, I wish they went even further and made the lenses as good as possible with modern technology. They couldn't call them “re-makes” though, but a kind of new line of small, good lenses. The Voigtländer Nokton Classic 35/1.4 is exactly what I wish Leica would have made: Shorter close-up distance and much better wide open sharpness than Leica's old 35mm Summilux. But the same, small size as the original. Edited February 18 by evikne 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 18 Posted February 18 Hi evikne, Take a look here Summilux-M 50mm f/1.4 Pre-ASPH V3 reissue coming in silver. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
costa43 Posted February 18 Share #22 Posted February 18 (edited) 33 minutes ago, evikne said: Actually, I wish they went even further and made the lenses as good as possible with modern technology. They couldn't call them “re-makes” though, but a kind of new line of small, good lenses. The Voigtländer Nokton Classic 35/1.4 is exactly what I wish Leica would have made: Shorter close-up distance and much better wide open sharpness than Leica's old 35mm Summilux. But the same, small size as the original. Yes that’s a good idea. A small line of lenses made to the best of their current ability. It would be interesting to see what Leica could do with modern tech if they didn’t purposefully restrict the optical design, I don’t think they could market them as well as the reissue classic line though. The size of the v3 pre-asph vs the performance is one of my favourite aspects of its otherwise rather standard design. Edited February 18 by costa43 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF’sDelight Posted February 18 Share #23 Posted February 18 Just for the fun of it… and not 100% correct. 😎 The second sketch shows the first Summilux 1:1.4/50 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419309-summilux-m-50mm-f14-pre-asph-v3-reissue-coming-in-silver/?do=findComment&comment=5759485'>More sharing options...
RF’sDelight Posted February 18 Share #24 Posted February 18 Ok, fine. But I think there's NO NEED to SHOUT about it. 😉 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RF’sDelight Posted February 18 Share #25 Posted February 18 To vor 2 Minuten schrieb Al Brown: There is a huuuge difference between S H O U T I N G and EMPHASIZING. Shouting is commonly considered in web etiquette when the entire sentence is written in capital letters. To me it felt like at least half of the sentence was shouted. 😁 (just kidding, no offense) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted February 18 Share #26 Posted February 18 (edited) 11 hours ago, costa43 said: If that MTF is accurate then it’s quite possible that Leica are remaking the original Summilux Pre Asph but with a closer focusing distance and more modern coatings. It makes sense that Leica reissue the first in the line. Off topic but I wish Leica did the same with the Steel Rim reissue, rather than leave it at 1m. I can’t agree more on min focus. I’ve been trying to find someone to modify my steel rim reissue for closer focus like Fred Miranda did. I do however wish they used less modern coatings. My 35:1.4v2 German definitely renders a bit warmer than my steel rim reissue and I assume it’s due to coatings. Edited February 18 by Crem 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwesi Posted February 18 Share #27 Posted February 18 Advertisement (gone after registration) 17 hours ago, FrozenInTime said: Someone over on FM has posted MTF curves clipped from a chinese datasheet - if true, it looks radically different from the v3 11868 https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1860074/1/#lastmessage Thanks for the link. Its looking more and more like this lens, if the rumors are true, is a departure from the traditional vintage lens reissues that Leica have been doing. Another anomaly is that the cross hatching that is on the depth of field ring in the v1/v2 is missing from the posted photo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted February 18 Share #28 Posted February 18 It’s rumoured to be released this Thursday at €3850. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted February 18 Share #29 Posted February 18 The new re-edition Summilux MTF curves look similar to another well known classic lens : Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Has Leica has reinvented the Sonnar look ! 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Has Leica has reinvented the Sonnar look ! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419309-summilux-m-50mm-f14-pre-asph-v3-reissue-coming-in-silver/?do=findComment&comment=5759641'>More sharing options...
Crem Posted February 18 Share #30 Posted February 18 (edited) I wonder if this means the end of production for the Noctilux 1.2 re-edition? It would make sense that they would end with this black paint version. Edited February 18 by Crem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarimelKrunch Posted February 18 Share #31 Posted February 18 (edited) All MTF charts look the same to me from far enough away haha. To me, I think these are different lenses though, both in their optical design and in the MTF charts. The Lux, to my knowledge is a double gauss design of 7 Elements in 5 groups; whereas the ZM Sonnar is 6 elements in 4 groups. I own the 50 Summilux v3 and my copy generally has more acutance, but less contrast, than my 50 ZM Sonnar. However, both lenses render very beautiful images in their own way. Edited February 18 by KarimelKrunch 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KarimelKrunch Posted February 18 Share #32 Posted February 18 (edited) Also, I'm not sure with which lens that MTF chart corresponds with but it doesn't match the MTF of the technical data sheet that I have of the Summilux v3. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 18 by KarimelKrunch MTF chart added. 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419309-summilux-m-50mm-f14-pre-asph-v3-reissue-coming-in-silver/?do=findComment&comment=5759677'>More sharing options...
KarimelKrunch Posted February 18 Share #33 Posted February 18 I like the design of this new "Re-Edition" in the way that it uses housing elements of the Summilux V2 with possibly Chromed Brass? and knurled focus ring combined with the more practical elements of the V3 like E46 filter size and 70cm MFD. One thing I would miss though would be the beautiful mounting ring from the V2 which is similar to the Lux ASPH Black Chrome, but the one here is also very nice and in alignment with the V3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwesi Posted February 19 Share #34 Posted February 19 9 hours ago, Al Brown said: Leica is merely doing a brass re-edition of the Summilux 50 pre-asph. Leica themselves explained several times that these are NEITHER called RE-MAKES nor RE-ISSUES, but something the Wetzlar elves call RE-EDITIONS - the official term. interesting... did Leica explain the differences between the terms or did it just come off as "marketing speak"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted February 19 Share #35 Posted February 19 I'm looking forward to hearing about it. Getting a bit heavy for me at over 400g and heavier than the Nocti 1.2 reissue? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted February 19 Share #36 Posted February 19 1 hour ago, grahamc said: I'm looking forward to hearing about it. Getting a bit heavy for me at over 400g and heavier than the Nocti 1.2 reissue? It is going feel substantial, and look fantastic, on a chrome MP with matching Leicavit. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted February 20 Share #37 Posted February 20 13 hours ago, FrozenInTime said: It is going feel substantial, and look fantastic, on a chrome MP with matching Leicavit. No doubt ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexGig0 Posted February 20 Share #38 Posted February 20 Well, I am interested, especially if the price is comparable to that of the Re-Edition Summilux-M 35mm Steel Rim. My days of paying ~$6K US, for one lens, probably ended in 2019. I will wait until I have seen sample images, and user reports, posted by early adopters. Some weight and heft, in a lens, can be good. I would rather that a lens tend to point downward. This allows me to settle the base plate against the left front of my body, with the strap passing over my right shoulder. This arrangement keeps the camera and lens from tending to swing, and keeps most spattered liquids and dust away from the front element or filter. My first M-mount lens being my still-much-loved Summilux-M 50mm ASPH, I did not develop an early preference for ultra-compact lenses. This Re-Edition would not be a “threat” to my 50 ASPH. I would rather own several interesting Fifties, than try to own lenses of each available focal length. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
N8aufnahme Posted February 20 Share #39 Posted February 20 Where is the 'Black Paint' color option? 😅 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexGig0 Posted February 20 Share #40 Posted February 20 (edited) The price will be $3895 US dollars, in the USA, according to B&H and Leica Store Miami. This was the original price of the Re-Edition Steel Rim Summilux 35mm, if I remember correctly. Edited February 20 by RexGig0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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