How Does One Review Content Credentials?

[MediaFotografie]

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vor 9 Stunden schrieb Ning Ning:

(...) and I am quite annoyed that the SL3 and Q3 43 do not have this function, (...)

yes, that's right; I know many people wondering why SL3 misses this feature; Steffen Rau (SL product manager) explains this: the development of the SL3 was already too far advanced

[MediaFotografie]

...there's something new: Microsoft Powerpoint "can do" Content Credentials (Word also): it shows the CR icon.

But at the moment only with Adobe CR, not Leica SL3-S

 

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Edited January 27 by MediaFotografie

[Stuart Richardson]

This is an interesting feature, but I wonder how it will be for journalists in repressive states. When I first learned of it, I thought it was essentially just a tool to demonstrate that nothing had been manipulated in the original. But the addition of precise time and location seems like it can be used to track and trace photographers, for example, revealing the location of their sources, their homes, or areas that were potentially off limits. If police or governments were to pick you up, they would essentially have an "unlocked" way to track your every move. Meanwhile, at least phones have hard to crack security. The camera has nothing at all. If I were working in an authoritarian country (which frankly includes most of the world at this point), I would be quite worried about this. I know that lots of cameras offer GPS, but that is something you can turn off. Is that possible here?

Edited January 28 by Stuart Richardson

[Ken Abrahams]

52 minutes ago, Stuart Richardson said:

This is an interesting feature, but I wonder how it will be for journalists in repressive states. When I first learned of it, I thought it was essentially just a tool to demonstrate that nothing had been manipulated in the original. But the addition of precise time and location seems like it can be used to track and trace photographers, for example, revealing the location of their sources, their homes, or areas that were potentially off limits. If police or governments were to pick you up, they would essentially have an "unlocked" way to track your every move. Meanwhile, at least phones have hard to crack security. The camera has nothing at all. If I were working in an authoritarian country (which frankly includes most of the world at this point), I would be quite worried about this. I know that lots of cameras offer GPS, but that is something you can turn off. Is that possible here?

Yes, there is an off button Stuart. I was just looking at the menu of my SL3S. In this day and age there is less opposition to the idea of privacy and regulatory government identification. It's just the way it is for the young adults that generation. Different to a transformative generations and days of marches or protests. No doubt a can of worms rolled open after your post above Stuart and a whole new dimension to photography whether we need that or not. Leica think we might need content credentials, a marketable camera function which involves protecting of ones rights.      

[Photoworks]

Content credentials do not have any protection.

The mission is to maintain a certificate that you are delivering metadata that has been signed in the camera and maintained true delivery that the image has not been tampered with.

the supporting software screenshots every edit and includes it in the metadata that can be read online.

The process slows down capture, editing, and export. On non-supporting software, the slowdowns are x2 fold, resulting in the removal of the CERT.

Most people have this feature off.

 

Copyright protection is handled differently in different countries, there are no unifying laws. If you register your copyright you will have to record it in every country you are planning to publish the image.
Metadata can record copyright information, and export software can add information about the title, situation, location, and article.
A very popular software for press photographers is Photo Mechanic.

[MediaFotografie]

there's a new Firmware 2.1.1 solving this issue with "unrecognized" certificate!

https://leica-camera.com/de-DE/fotografie/kameras/sl/sl3-s-schwarz/downloads

[Ken Abrahams]

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Still no Content Credentials

I updated firmware all okay

Interesting that the CR button appeared on Fotos App when attempting the firmware update. I selected that to on even though I havent turned it off. I had to add the firmware the old way. Check!

Captured an image with SL3S and uploaded to lightroom catalogue. Developed image from LR to PS finished image and uploaded JPG and Tiff separately into CC with no results from the tiff and only a thumbnail from the JPG

I am thinking I will need to update my photoshop applications to get it to work. Before the Firmware update I was at least achieving more data on Content Credentials than with the firmware update.

I am reluctant to update Photoshop given that its been plagued with issues since updating the IOS on my Mac to Sequoia - I am running 25. 1  and 26.0 both PS 24 and PS 25

[Ken Abrahams]

 I could only achieve information from the DNG - no post production or edited details were working from the Content Credential site. Maybe it's a matter of updating my Adobe Apps. The same testing was carried out with images via the Bridge App with same results. I thought the idea was to capture the editing information? 

 

Ken 

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vor 8 Stunden schrieb Ken Abrahams:

 I could only achieve information from the DNG - no post production or edited details were working from the Content Credential site. Maybe it's a matter of updating my Adobe Apps. The same testing was carried out with images via the Bridge App with same results. I thought the idea was to capture the editing information? 

Hi Ken,

first of all: the problem is fixed on the Leica site, good. Now we see prober "Issued by Leica camera AG" and not "unrecognized".

Adobe: You have to activate "early access" - and there are still some enterprise licenses without this feature (school editions)

Here's an example from SL3-S showing both, Leica and Adobe credentials, just try it:
https://www.vesta.uni-tuebingen.de/luf/sl3s/cai

Here are some more informations from adobe:
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/content-credentials.html

[Photoworks]

11 hours ago, Ken Abrahams said:

I am reluctant to update Photoshop given that its been plagued with issues since updating the IOS on my Mac to Sequoia - I am running 25. 1  and 26.0 both PS 24 and PS 25

You can use a trail of Capture One for 30 days and see what you get.

My Lightroom classic worked shows the changes.

[Bernd-B]

Unfortunately, the Content Credentials in C1 are restricted to the All-in-one license. They do not work with the Pro license.

[Ken Abrahams]

Well it helps to read the directions, and it took foraging around here to investigate Cr. I now have a preview of Content Credentials.

It's not really a function I will use however. The information on the file can be connected with Instagram if ones gets a professional account which I am not going to do. Also the Cr workflow is attached to Photoshops export function where you can make the decision to use CC or not before saving the document. I have never used Export in PS to save jpg's and when I saved an image my way (with Cr attached) three weird files were generated in LR so I am not going to let that happen. It doesn't look like I will be using Cr however for professionals it's great, once you work out the convoluted system. I suspect that it will be simplified further down the track.