Ken Abrahams Posted January 22 Share #1 Posted January 22 Advertisement (gone after registration) How easy will it be for others to review content credentials and my image meta data? Can I edit what info is revealed or not? For example, my editing workflow is like intellectual property that needs protecting also. Admittedly I haven't read the information from Leica yet however I have the page open. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Photoworks Posted January 22 Share #2 Posted January 22 It is very easy to read on the web. Different software retains information. on export, you can pick credentials + edits. it does not protect your intellectual property! it is to see if you have retouched or manipulated the image in the post. It ads screenshots of edits. The applications are limited, and many software slow down the edits and copying. That said it can easily removed and all the info is gone. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted January 23 Author Share #3 Posted January 23 Okay I found it and put a fully processed image in the search and got "Unrecognised" ha ha. Maybe I needed to complete my copyright and user name etc which I have done so I will check the next images . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/418754-how-does-one-review-content-credentials/?do=findComment&comment=5744966'>More sharing options...
Bernd-B Posted January 23 Share #4 Posted January 23 I have completed my copyright etc. data and got the same "unrecognized" in the information field. My assumption is that the SL3-S ist still very new on the market and not fully recognized in the software so far ... e.g. not supported by DxO PureRAW4. The information further below in the certificate is fully correct in my test images which I verified on the CAI website. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 23 Share #5 Posted January 23 11 hours ago, Ken Abrahams said: Okay I found it and put a fully processed image in the search and got "Unrecognised" ha ha. Maybe I needed to complete my copyright and user name etc which I have done so I will check the next images . Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Why are you uploading a DNG? Is that what you deliver to your clients? Only adobe and capture one are processing images with credential, and few other that support it in read and copy. In capture one you would have to select credential on export. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theseahawk Posted January 23 Share #6 Posted January 23 26 minutes ago, Photoworks said: Why are you uploading a DNG? Is that what you deliver to your clients? Only adobe and capture one are processing images with credential, and few other that support it in read and copy. In capture one you would have to select credential on export. If it failed to embed authenticity elements in the source file it wouldn't be much of a safeguard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 23 Share #7 Posted January 23 Advertisement (gone after registration) 23 minutes ago, theseahawk said: If it failed to embed authenticity elements in the source file it wouldn't be much of a safeguard. If you don't do any edits in a supported app, what is the point of using it. DNG is only a raw file. Content Credentials is to see if the image has been changed by edits, retouching, AI! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theseahawk Posted January 23 Share #8 Posted January 23 DNG is the original file made by the creator. It must have baseline authenticity metadata embedded from the point of creation, prior to any edits, or it fails to have the elements required to assess creator integrity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 24 Share #9 Posted January 24 10 hours ago, theseahawk said: DNG is the original file made by the creator. It must have baseline authenticity metadata embedded from the point of creation, prior to any edits, or it fails to have the elements required to assess creator integrity. Yes if Content Credentials are active in the camera. It would just show the creator and not other edits. You will have to use software to download the images that keep the certificate intact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted January 24 Author Share #10 Posted January 24 I did use a processed image before this one, I checked a couple of images, it's just that I posted the image of the DNG for some reason. I could not see where the editing data anywhere (jpg version) and presume one has to delve further via the site for this purpose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted January 24 Author Share #11 Posted January 24 Uploading the DNG actually gives information about the file in a window on the right hand side but entering a jpg into the site offers nothing no name or thumbnail so its only the dng which shows any information whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted January 24 Author Share #12 Posted January 24 (edited) In the SL3 Operating Manual it says that Content Credentials does not work when camera is in continuous shooting mode or interval shooting however works in single image mode and multi shot mode. I had selected Content Credentials in the initial setting up of the camera adding copyright info and selected "on". When searching the SL3S manual I activated Apple AI to generate Summary it took a while (5 minutes) to go through the 30 pages but it enables one to search all the sections of the manual in a very organised way. That is my tip for the day but unfortunately one needs to subscribe to unlock the full access. We are living in a Subscription world where a small fee per month gets you access. Edited January 24 by Ken Abrahams 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernd-B Posted January 24 Share #13 Posted January 24 I have tested the content credentials in the combination of the SL3-S in combination with the latest version of LR Classic and added the content credentials to the exported JPG. The verification on the CAI website (https://contentcredentials.org/verify) shows the following results: Klick on the processed image it says in the headline that the certificate is issued by Adobe Inc. and the same in the summary below ("Über dieser Inhaltsnachweis"). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/418754-how-does-one-review-content-credentials/?do=findComment&comment=5745636'>More sharing options...
Bernd-B Posted January 24 Share #14 Posted January 24 If you select the original file you get the reason for the "unrecognized" mark. The orange mark ("Dieser Inhaltsurhebernachweise wurde von einer unbekannten Quelle ausgestellt.") translates to "This content credential was issued bei an unrecognized source". That supports my assumption that the Master certificate of the Leica SL3-S is not recognized by the CAI so far - as the SL3-S was released just a week ago. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/418754-how-does-one-review-content-credentials/?do=findComment&comment=5745639'>More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted January 25 Author Share #15 Posted January 25 Thanks Bernd, it makes sense they are catching up with new camera releases. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted January 25 Author Share #16 Posted January 25 So I discovered that if using continuous shooting mode, Content Credentials will not work and a message appears every time saying as much on the lcd screen before taking the shot. If one uses continuous the feature is unusable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 25 Share #17 Posted January 25 3 hours ago, Ken Abrahams said: So I discovered that if using continuous shooting mode, Content Credentials will not work and a message appears every time saying as much on the lcd screen before taking the shot. If one uses continuous the feature is unusable. So much for that! disappointing if you are sports photographer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Abrahams Posted January 25 Author Share #18 Posted January 25 6 hours ago, Photoworks said: So much for that! disappointing if you are sports photographer Yes, it's a bit of a let down when a shiny new function is toted as a golden standard to navigate through the crazy world of AI and fakeness, to find its a gimmick itself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ning Ning Posted January 27 Share #19 Posted January 27 This is not the way it should be and I am quite annoyed that the SL3 and Q3 43 do not have this function, but I use the credentials in Lightroom. The DNGs are not “protected” but it's better than nothing. Besides, I only send my clients the jpg anyway and the processing steps from the DNG to the finished jpg are definitely logged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaFotografie Posted January 27 Share #20 Posted January 27 here's another example - the verify site recognized SL3-S very well with a valid certificate from "Leica Camera AG" (postprocessing in Adobe LR classic); everything looks fine! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/418754-how-does-one-review-content-credentials/?do=findComment&comment=5747221'>More sharing options...
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