AF indicator on screen with M lens mounted on the SL3

[jankojanko]

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If this is posted elsewhere, my apologies. I tried to find this topic but I didn't.

I have an m-lens mounted on my SL3 but the AF indicator on screen stays on. That's blocking the view and it's very annoying. I have used the original SL before but I didn't have that issue with that camera. Anyone else has this issue?

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[Photoworks]

I suppose you don't need functionality.

You can change to the crosshair AF field and move it into the corner.

[Carrot]

But then when you magnify it goes straight to magnifying the corner of the image, which is not much use.  I agree the crossgair is initially redundant when using M lenses, but on my SL2-S it disappears when you magnify, so the problem goes away.

[Planetwide]

P139

 

[jaapv]

5 hours ago, Carrot said:

But then when you magnify it goes straight to magnifying the corner of the image, which is not much use.  I agree the crossgair is initially redundant when using M lenses, but on my SL2-S it disappears when you magnify, so the problem goes away.

It is not redundant as it indicates where your magnification will go - so put it on your main point of focus.

[jankojanko]

28 minutes ago, Planetwide said:

P139

 

English version? I don't see how this helps me with my m-lens?

[jankojanko]

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2 minutes ago, jaapv said:

It is not redundant as it indicates where your magnification will go - so put it on your main point of focus.

Ah that makes sense. With the 'field' indicator I now understand but with 'zone' it's clearly blocking the view. But this is helpful, thanks.

[hdmesa]

And if you turn on Touch AF in EVF then you can double tap the rear screen to return the crosshair to center while looking thought the EVF (right thumb works well for this).

If you shoot wide open, always use the crosshair and zoom to the point of focus when the point of focus is off center. Focus and recompose will lead to focus errors.

[JoshuaR]

This sounds very annoying. I use my SL2-S almost exclusively with M lenses, and one of the reasons is that there is nothing in the viewfinder except the image. Crosshairs, boxes, and other overlays in the viewfinder are one of the reasons I stopped using autofocus cameras. If there were a crosshair in the way of the view even with an M lens om my SL2-S, I'm quite sure that I'd sell the camera! 

On the SL2-S there's a menu item called MF Setup (which is, strangely, only available when there is no manual-focus lens mounted). Have you tried looking in there?

Also, have you gone through the menu and turned everything related to Touch AF? 

If you find a solution, please post! I've actually avoided upgrading to the newest SL2-S firmware because I'm wary of my current crosshair-free setup getting changed. I suspect it's something that bothers very few people and could fly under the radar of Leica's software engineers.

 

[hdmesa]

9 hours ago, JoshuaR said:

This sounds very annoying. I use my SL2-S almost exclusively with M lenses, and one of the reasons is that there is nothing in the viewfinder except the image. Crosshairs, boxes, and other overlays in the viewfinder are one of the reasons I stopped using autofocus cameras. If there were a crosshair in the way of the view even with an M lens om my SL2-S, I'm quite sure that I'd sell the camera! 

On the SL2-S there's a menu item called MF Setup (which is, strangely, only available when there is no manual-focus lens mounted). Have you tried looking in there?

Also, have you gone through the menu and turned everything related to Touch AF? 

If you find a solution, please post! I've actually avoided upgrading to the newest SL2-S firmware because I'm wary of my current crosshair-free setup getting changed. I suspect it's something that bothers very few people and could fly under the radar of Leica's software engineers.

 

Setting the AF Area to Multifield is how you get nothing to show up with a manual focus adapted lens. This is the default AF setting.

Note that with Multifield, if you magnify to focus then move around with the joystick, the next time you magnify, it zooms to the last used spot, which might be on the other side of the screen from where you want to be. There is no shortcut that I know of to return the focus point to the center other than turning the camera off and on. 

Edited December 21, 2024 by hdmesa

[Carrot]

Assign ‘Toggle Focus Point’ to a function button?

[hdmesa]

On 12/22/2024 at 1:31 AM, Carrot said:

Assign ‘Toggle Focus Point’ to a function button?

Not sure that will work in Multifield because there’s technically no focus point in that mode. Don’t have my camera with me to test it right now, but I will later.

[jaapv]

I think that can't work and it would not make sense either. The point of manual focus is that you do not have an AF focus point as you are focussing manually and AF is disabled. The green square indicates where the camera will centre magnification, or, if you have an AF lens mounted, where BBF will take you. If there are multiple squares, where should the magnification/BBF go to? Then you need the joystick to guide the camera.

[hdmesa]

40 minutes ago, jaapv said:

I think that can't work and it would not make sense either. The point of manual focus is that you do not have an AF focus point as you are focussing manually and AF is disabled. The green square indicates where the camera will centre magnification, or, if you have an AF lens mounted, where BBF will take you. If there are multiple squares, where should the magnification/BBF go to? Then you need the joystick to guide the camera.

In manual focus, I don’t think the square is green but rather white.

Most AF cameras use whatever AF focus area mode is selected even when you switch to manual focus. For example in Multifield, there is no focus point and magnification always goes to the center or to the last place you panned to with the joystick while magnified. All other AF modes that have a crosshair, box, or large frame: those markers serve as the target for magnification, allowing you to choose where to magnify before doing so. With some cameras, using too large a frame won’t let you move the magnification point far enough to the edge of the frame should that be needed. So for manual focus, choosing the crosshair is usually best unless you have trouble seeing the crosshair, in which case the smallest AF box is the next best.

[jankojanko]

1 hour ago, jaapv said:

I think that can't work and it would not make sense either. The point of manual focus is that you do not have an AF focus point as you are focussing manually and AF is disabled. The green square indicates where the camera will centre magnification, or, if you have an AF lens mounted, where BBF will take you. If there are multiple squares, where should the magnification/BBF go to? Then you need the joystick to guide the camera.

All Af modes can be selected when an m-lens is mounted.

[jaapv]

Nobody said they couldn’t. AFC with tracking works fabulously on my Summilux 24 M….Even better on my Tele-Elmar M