Who has made a complete swap from M to Q

[otto.f]

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On 11/10/2024 at 3:27 PM, satijntje said:

I have problems with exact focusing with the rangefinder

If you're sure if this is your problem and not the rangefinder's... Worth a check at Leica's before you jump, jumping back will be painfull. You'll miss a lot of variety of M lenses and needs at the wide-angle side, which was always the thing where the M stood out. I tested both the Q3 and the 43 and the lack of versatility in lenses and their characters is too much of a loss for me. 

[otto.f]

On 11/16/2024 at 10:21 PM, Smogg said:

my resulting photos are much weaker than with the M11. With the Q3 43 I think less about composition and I really miss the clear (without distorted colors and contrasts) view through the glass at the world and of course I miss the rangefinder frame, which makes it much easier to find the best composition.

Yes that was my experience too, I don't owe a Q so it may a quick judgement, but it imposed a feeling of haste and nonchalance upon me

[Smogg]

10 hours ago, otto.f said:

Yes that was my experience too, I don't owe a Q so it may a quick judgement, but it imposed a feeling of haste and nonchalance upon me

Two more very significant moments that spoil the life impression of the Q3:

1. Exposure simulation that cannot be switched off in aperture priority mode makes visibility in a contrasting scene poor.

2. An old bug with Focus lock, which is transferred from firmware to firmware. Because of it, you have to hold the shutter button half-pressed to fix the focus. If this is a minute or more, your finger starts to get tired.

[Velo-city]

On 12/5/2024 at 7:41 AM, otto.f said:

Yes that was my experience too, I don't owe a Q so it may a quick judgement, but it imposed a feeling of haste and nonchalance upon me

When I first got my Fuji, and then more recently and M, I started convincing myself of this too - that this camera somehow 'makes/helps you slow down'.  Probably because we read about it.  In reality for me personally I think it's all in the mind.  

Whether I use the Q, or the M, of the Fuji, or an older DSLR or a phone - you can rush or slow down.  You dont have to press the shutter on any of them, the camera isn't controlling you!  I probably did rush, but to be honest it wasn't the M slowing me down, it was just a new camera and having this mindset.  I find I can now create the same 'experience' by just taking my time, and thinking more carefully - with any camera.  Perhaps it was the notion of the M that triggered it but not the camera itself.  It was the phone for me that had probably destroyed my photography - able to take snaps of family and events at the speed of light without much care meant capturing everything, but not capturing it well.  But it doesn't have to be that way at all and now I'm conscious of that fact, I can slow down and be more present with the phone too.  

We're complicated creatures and sometimes we think we need a 'thing' to make us behave a certain way but I'd argue we all have the control within ourselves we just have to realise it.  We don't need to wear an uncomfortable, slippery, old pair of shoes to walk slowly, and we don't need to run fast in running shoes.  We can decide either way, but the running shoes allow you to do both (more easily anyway).

Edited December 10, 2024 by Velo-city

[otto.f]

2 hours ago, Velo-city said:

But it doesn't have to be that way at all and now I'm conscious of that fact, I can slow down and be more present with the phone too.  

We're complicated creatures

Sure. After 25 years of Leica M I may not have the patience anymore to build that up with a different system

[jjroroek]

On 12/5/2024 at 7:24 PM, Smogg said:

 

2. An old bug with Focus lock, which is transferred from firmware to firmware. Because of it, you have to hold the shutter button half-pressed to fix the focus. If this is a minute or more, your finger starts to get tired.

i solved that by assigning the focus lock to the richt upper button. it works fine. 

[LocalHero1953]

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1 minute ago, jjroroek said:

i solved that by assigning the focus lock to the richt upper button. it works fine. 

I have it on the thumb dial button, so my forefinger can switch quickly from shutter button to AF-L

[jjroroek]

I switched from the M10R to the Q3 because I could no longer get the focus quickly done. I am also a 28mm photographer and with the 28mm on the M and glasses it is not possible to see the entire field of view. I used a correction lens but had to take off my glasses every time I wanted to take a picture. As soon as the M12 gets a digital viewfinder, diopter correction, stabilization and better focus support I will switch back to the M because on the Q3 I miss the DOF of e.g. the Summilux 50

[jjroroek]

On 11/21/2024 at 10:11 PM, Smogg said:

Of course the Q3 43 has many strong points and I like this camera. However, an M camera is always something special for me.

that is called cognitive dissonance in psychology. I had exactly the same when I wanted to exchange my m10r for the q3. somehow an m gives you a higher status feeling but that is mainly because you paid a lot of money for it and people sometimes look at you with envy. now that I have made the switch to the q I realize how absurd that feeling is. by sticking with the m for that reason you deprive yourself of the opportunity to take more beautiful photos. yes and very occasionally I still miss my m but then no longer because of the status but for example because of the DOF of the summilux 50

[jjroroek]

Just now, LocalHero1953 said:

I have it on the thumb dial button, so my forefinger can switch quickly from shutter button to AF-L

yes , i just changed it and that is even better....thanks