Date and Time advancing too quickly.

[alexbunting]

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I few weeks ago I took the top plate off of my m10 and disconnected the ribbon cables so I could add a tiny dab of oil (the focus was getting stuck which is an issue this camera is prone to) 

when putting everything back together, there was a small tiny black piece I could not figure out how to reattach (not sure what it’s called but it was almost like a belt that clipped onto one of the ribbon cables)

The ribbon cable was still able to connect without it, so I put the small black piece in a bag and just left it out. 
since then, the camera works fine except the date and time advance too quickly.
what I mean is that the minute advances after about 45 seconds or faster, and after a few weeks I noticed my capture dates on my photos was about 2 weeks into the future. 
this is just annoying because I like to know the correct dates when looking back at my photos.

any advice on how to fix this?

Should the ribbon cables have anything to do with the clock in the camera? 
firmware is up to date. 
I should probably get a proper CLA at this point, but this is my only camera and I don’t wanna wait months to have it back.

Thanks for reading!

[jaapv]

Hmmm.. Having fiddled with the camera yourself won't do the repair price any good - even putting drops of oil can be a bad idea. I fear that you won't have any option but to send it to Leica. 

[Le Chef]

You need to reconnect the back to the future decelerator clip or you will end up in the 1950’s.

[LocalHero1953]

I have the same problem as I get older.

[Siriusone59]

I believe you have stumbled upon the secret of Leica cameras.  They incorporate a temporal anomaly allowing them to see the image prior actually taking the shot...the camera knows ahead of time and attempts to catch the proper moment.  The black piece you've removed is designed to stabilize the field preventing effects on the internal clock.  Just as an experiment, place a wristwatch next to the camera and after a few hours, compare the reading with another.😉

[mujk]

Do you have pictures of the belt and/or the place where it was attached to the ribbon cable? What material is the belt?

 

[fenykepesz]

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Am 23.8.2024 um 13:04 schrieb alexbunting:

I few weeks ago I took the top plate off of my m10 and disconnected the ribbon cables so I could add a tiny dab of oil (the focus was getting stuck which is an issue this camera is prone to) 

 

vor 7 Stunden schrieb tributr:

Add oil to what? I'm confused. Are you adding oil to the rangefinder mechanism? If you've been doing that no wonder it is sticking and you've caused more harm to the camera. 

The lubricant used for a rangefinder is similar to that used to lubricate a mechanical watch. You would need the proper tools and training to do this job. 

in terms of OIL, you may use this one : synthetic evaporation-resistant Syntalube oil 9010 by Moebius - it was discussed some years ago - see here at LUF

now, regarding TIME & DATE, i hope your m10, well oiled with Moebius, will not run even faster in the future...

Edited September 1, 2024 by fenykepesz

[fenykepesz]

vor einer Stunde schrieb fenykepesz:

 

in terms of OIL, you may use this one : synthetic evaporation-resistant Syntalube oil 9010 by Moebius - it was discussed some years ago - see here at LUF

CORRECTION : here the correct URL address for the Moebius oil discussion at LUF

[mujk]

My guess is that the "belt" has some kind of noise/interference suppression function. When leaving it out, occasional interference affects the realtime clock circuit in the camera and causes a change of the time. Another possibility is a bad connection in one of the ribbon cable connectors after the cable has been reconnected.

So why would there be connections in the top plate related to time and date settings? Maybe because time and date can be set by the GPS unit inside the 020 Viso, when this is attached to the hot shoe? But without schematics it is impossible to know.

This is of course speculation only. And no, I'm not going to attempt replicating the problem by removing the top plate of my M10, dis/reconnecting the cables and taking out the "belt".