grandetech Posted December 24, 2012 Share #41 Â Posted December 24, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I purchased a 80 Lux ROM lately and I am shocked what the pictures does in terms of creamy looks and wide open a bit soft but full of characters. Â Some said 35 Lux share the dreamy characteristics of 80 Lux, which I am serious considering to upgrade to replace my 35 cron, since I would need to sell the 35 cron ROM ver. (which is quite dreamy as well, not as good as 80 Lux though) to fund this purchase, does anyone share and confirm the same comment on 35 Lux? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_d Posted December 24, 2012 Share #42 Â Posted December 24, 2012 My 35mm Summilux is sharper at f1.4 than the 80mm is at f1.4. The out of focus area (bokeh) may look similar but my 35mm Summilux is very sharp wide open. The 35 Summilux is a great lens but I often wish I had a 35mm Summicron as well because of the lighter weight. When I fill my bag with all my lenses including the 80 and 35mm Summilux it gets very heavy. I will often leave both Summilux's home if I am going to be walking around with a bag on my shoulder. If you get a 35 Lux keep the Cron for a while to see if the weight of the Lux is an issue for you. Personally, I would keep the 'Cron and be happy with it unless you need to shoot in low light conditions often and need the extra stop you get from the 'Lux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandetech Posted December 24, 2012 Share #43 Â Posted December 24, 2012 My 35mm Summilux is sharper at f1.4 than the 80mm is at f1.4. The out of focus area (bokeh) may look similar but my 35mm Summilux is very sharp wide open. The 35 Summilux is a great lens but I often wish I had a 35mm Summicron as well because of the lighter weight. When I fill my bag with all my lenses including the 80 and 35mm Summilux it gets very heavy. I will often leave both Summilux's home if I am going to be walking around with a bag on my shoulder. If you get a 35 Lux keep the Cron for a while to see if the weight of the Lux is an issue for you. Personally, I would keep the 'Cron and be happy with it unless you need to shoot in low light conditions often and need the extra stop you get from the 'Lux. Â Dave, thanks for your opinion, its very objective, you are a 2nd person I consult that comment about the weight of 35 Lux could be a concern. When I play around with it, the 680gram thing doesn't bother me much, shooting with it on my 5D2 (850g) is also acceptable in weigh, carry around with 2 lux and 5D2 in a bag I admit could be a pain in ass, must use a backpack then. But I am a Leica gear fanatics, I am eager to try the best lens I can afford, hope I can bear the weight carrying around the luxes, whatelse can I do..... Â My real concern is, is it really worth the extra efforts and money in terms of picture quality? If it can be close to 80 lux in various aspects and best the cron certain round, it is definetly worthed!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_d Posted December 24, 2012 Share #44 Â Posted December 24, 2012 I can relate to your desire for the Sumilux but unless you need an extra stop of lens speed, the 35 Summilux is not going to gain you anything over the Summicron. Both lenses are excellent but you are paying for the speed of the Lux. If I were to buy a 35mm lens again I would probably go for the 'Cron and spend the money saved on another body or something else I need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandetech Posted December 25, 2012 Share #45 Â Posted December 25, 2012 I can relate to your desire for the Sumilux but unless you need an extra stop of lens speed, the 35 Summilux is not going to gain you anything over the Summicron. Both lenses are excellent but you are paying for the speed of the Lux. If I were to buy a 35mm lens again I would probably go for the 'Cron and spend the money saved on another body or something else I need. Â Â Under a testing myself, the extra stop provides a better bokeh ability in distant object, thus a better creativity and effects, low light ability is a bonus. I also found Cron 35 has to be F2.8 to match the sharpness of Lux 35 @F2. Moreover, with both at F2, the bokeh background on Lux is tad more blur. Thus, Lux is a better lens, whether these are significant is discrete to particular users though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted December 30, 2012 Share #46 Â Posted December 30, 2012 I can relate to your desire for the Sumilux but unless you need an extra stop of lens speed, the 35 Summilux is not going to gain you anything over the Summicron. ... Apart from shallower depth of focus wide open of course. Â Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted December 30, 2012 Share #47 Â Posted December 30, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I just got mine out (80/1.4 R) after reading all this and I find it to be softish for females wide open-they might like that. Then I dialed it to 5,6 and was shocked at the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde behavior. It was razor sharp, I mean better than the other 50 lenses I use! Now Puts suggests that this and the 75/1.4 M behave the same. I will try my 75 tomorrow to see how close they perform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandetech Posted January 4, 2013 Share #48 Â Posted January 4, 2013 I just got mine out (80/1.4 R) after reading all this and I find it to be softish for females wide open-they might like that. Then I dialed it to 5,6 and was shocked at the Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde behavior. It was razor sharp, I mean better than the other 50 lenses I use! Now Puts suggests that this and the 75/1.4 M behave the same. I will try my 75 tomorrow to see how close they perform. Â Yes, its razor sharp at F5.6 indeed. I tried it with a media distance scene at infinity, it is stunningly sharp. A stranger yesterday at a dealer's shop chatted with me saying 75.4 will win 80.4 hands down, I asked him did he test it himself, he said no, what a joke, looking forward to see your samples to this post soon for both lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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