Olaf_ZG Posted August 13 Share #121 Posted August 13 Advertisement (gone after registration) SL2 plus SL lux Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/396580-portrait-lenses-on-l-mount/?do=findComment&comment=5847821'>More sharing options...
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hansvons Posted August 19 Share #122 Posted August 19 SL2-S, APO 35mm @ f/2.4. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 8 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/396580-portrait-lenses-on-l-mount/?do=findComment&comment=5850326'>More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted August 19 Author Share #123 Posted August 19 A wonderful portrait! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvin Greis Posted August 19 Share #124 Posted August 19 Leica SL3 + VE 24-90 (50mm, f/10) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 11 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/396580-portrait-lenses-on-l-mount/?do=findComment&comment=5850372'>More sharing options...
helged Posted August 19 Share #125 Posted August 19 1 hour ago, hansvons said: SL2-S, APO 35mm @ f/2.4. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! +1 to 35APO (almost) wide open... Usually, I like to see the closest eye in focus. In this case, the hear in focus gently frames the face in a way that would be lost, I imagine, if the focus was on the closet eye. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted August 19 Author Share #126 Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Alvin Greis said: Leica SL3 + VE 24-90 (50mm, f/10) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! And another superb portrait! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvin Greis Posted August 19 Share #127 Posted August 19 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: And another superb portrait! I really like the skin tones in Leica rendering. Nothing else looks quite like it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted August 19 Share #128 Posted August 19 1 hour ago, Alvin Greis said: I really like the skin tones in Leica rendering. Nothing else looks quite like it. Agreed. Pretty close to what I experience when working with the Alexa. For good reason, Leica avoids to make human complexions look healthy (hi Canon, hi Nikon, hi Panasonic). They leave skin tones as they appear and don’t optimize them. Thus, you get what you are in all your individuality and with all the problems and beauty. I haven’t tried Hasselblad yet, but they are said to have a similar approach towards skin tones. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvin Greis Posted August 19 Share #129 Posted August 19 (edited) 11 minutes ago, hansvons said: Agreed. Pretty close to what I experience when working with the Alexa. For good reason, Leica avoids to make human complexions look healthy (hi Canon, hi Nikon, hi Panasonic). They leave skin tones as they appear and don’t optimize them. Thus, you get what you are in all your individuality and with all the problems and beauty. I haven’t tried Hasselblad yet, but they are said to have a similar approach towards skin tones. Agreed. The combination of the camera and optics produces a completely different skin tone, unlike Japanese cameras. In my view, such portraits carry a stronger emotional tone, and they definitely shouldn’t be pushed toward the “healthy orange” skin tone everyone has grown used to in photos. Though it might be difficult with people who prefer to be beautified. In my view, Hasselblad sits somewhere in the middle. Edited August 19 by Alvin Greis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted August 19 Share #130 Posted August 19 1 minute ago, Alvin Greis said: In my view, such portraits carry a stronger emotional tone, and they definitely shouldn’t be pushed toward the “healthy orange” skin tone everyone has grown used to in photos. Yes, definately a trend we are now seeing also in filmmaking as Canon and Panasonic etc. have a longtime standing there and producers tend to love the vibrant colours more and more. However, in high-quality TV, cinema, and advertising, cinematographers prefer a neutral, un-biased handling of skin tones to give maximal flexibility in post. 4 minutes ago, Alvin Greis said: Agreed. The combination of the camera and optics produces a completely different skin tone, unlike Japanese cameras. Can't say that Sony fits that bill as well. Or do they? I don't have enough experience here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alvin Greis Posted August 19 Share #131 Posted August 19 41 minutes ago, hansvons said: Can't say that Sony fits that bill as well. Or do they? I don't have enough experience here. In my view, they’re just like the others — I don’t see a difference. But I’ve never looked into it deeply. As far as I know, this is a matter of brand philosophy: Leica aims to preserve naturalness, while Sony optimizes color rendering for video, hybrid shooting, and later digital correction. But in any case, it all depends not on the camera, but on the person behind it. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted August 30 Author Share #132 Posted August 30 (edited) An opportunity to post portraits of the same person with the Summilux-SL 50 and Sigma 85/1.4. The opportunity was a shoot for headshots for Spotlight (theatrical casting website) for this aspiring professional actor. (NB most shots were 4x5 portrait orientation, as required by Spotlight). Natural light (no sun, heavy rain) from the doorway to the left. SL2-S, full aperture. Summilux-SL 50 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Sigma 85/1.4 Edited August 30 by LocalHero1953 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Sigma 85/1.4 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/396580-portrait-lenses-on-l-mount/?do=findComment&comment=5856100'>More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted August 30 Author Share #133 Posted August 30 (edited) She's not usually that serious. Sigma 85/1.4, strobe lighting (framed too tight on the left) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 30 by LocalHero1953 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/396580-portrait-lenses-on-l-mount/?do=findComment&comment=5856111'>More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted August 31 Share #134 Posted August 31 Looking at her shirt, the sigma has quite some color shift. The blacks became red, even worse colorshift than a m8. Personally I like the images from the 50mm more, but not so much because of the lens but of their composition and light. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted August 31 Share #135 Posted August 31 19 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: The opportunity was a shoot for headshots for Spotlight (theatrical casting website) for this aspiring professional actor. (NB most shots were 4x5 portrait orientation, as required by Spotlight). Classic portraits! If you basically copy/pasted the grade from one image to the other, I’d say that the Summilux has the better colour separation. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted August 31 Share #136 Posted August 31 20 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: (framed too tight on the left) Don’t agree. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted August 31 Author Share #137 Posted August 31 33 minutes ago, hansvons said: Classic portraits! If you basically copy/pasted the grade from one image to the other, I’d say that the Summilux has the better colour separation. I have concluded before (in this thread here, I think) that I prefer the 85 for its focal length and because I can't tell much difference against the Summilux. But this is the first set where I have begun to see the difference - at the moment this is subjectively manifested by wanting to keep the Summilux on the body. I'm must spend some time just looking at these shots (and others from the same shoot) and working out where the difference lies. Thanks for the hint about colour - it may well be that, but I think it's also to do with focus roll-off. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted August 31 Author Share #138 Posted August 31 4 hours ago, Olaf_ZG said: Looking at her shirt, the sigma has quite some color shift. The blacks became red, even worse colorshift than a m8. Personally I like the images from the 50mm more, but not so much because of the lens but of their composition and light. The light was gorgeous: clouded light from a door at the side, dim background (and matt black walls) - beats studio light every time. I don't see red in the black myself, but I'm now looking on my MacBook - I'll check later on my big calibrated monitor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted August 31 Share #139 Posted August 31 2 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: The light was gorgeous: clouded light from a door at the side, dim background (and matt black walls) - beats studio light every time. I don't see red in the black myself, but I'm now looking on my MacBook - I'll check later on my big calibrated monitor. I was joking about the red. She switched shirts. But it looked like a comparison thread of the m8 with and without filter. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted August 31 Share #140 Posted August 31 2 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: I have concluded before (in this thread here, I think) that I prefer the 85 for its focal length and because I can't tell much difference against the Summilux. But this is the first set where I have begun to see the difference - at the moment this is subjectively manifested by wanting to keep the Summilux on the body. I'm must spend some time just looking at these shots (and others from the same shoot) and working out where the difference lies. Thanks for the hint about colour - it may well be that, but I think it's also to do with focus roll-off. When I look at her hair, the roll-off in the first set is gorgeous. On the latter it is just ok. I bought the Sigma based on your enthusiasm, but sold it off after several sessions as I preferred the Summilux. For me, the latter is still the best portrait lens I have ever had. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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