Sl3: can it be set up to close the shutter when turned off and changing lenses?

[jrp]

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The Sony a1 has this feature. I don’t use it as the shutter would be v expensive to replace if touched accidentally. Easier to periodically clean the sensor glass. 

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[ccalberti1953]

On 4/24/2024 at 9:38 AM, AZN said:

Just spent 10 minutes trying to find some mention about this online – found nothing.

We are talking about the Sony ⍺7RIV (ILCE-7RM4) right?  The only mentions I could find are for the cheaper, lower-spec ⍺7IV (ILCE-7M4) or (obviously) the ⍺7RV (ILCE-7RM5).

???

 

I wrote to my friend in the US and here is his reply for his A74:

"Here you go:

"MENU > Toolbox > 13 Set-Up Option > Anti-Dust Function > Shutter When Pwr Off > ON

"Of course, the A7R4 menus might be a little different than my A74 menus."

Apparently it was an A74, not an R4.  I was able to enable the function using the sequence outlined above, just as I was able to enable the function on my A7R5.  I'd be surprised if the R4 is different, but then in this world nothing surprises anymore.  Good luck.

[BernardC]

7 hours ago, ccalberti1953 said:

It looks like the SL3 has internalized much of the Panasonic S5II, including the overall size, autofocus system, enhanced video, and sensor setup.  Is the S5II an SL3 equvalent at a steep discount?

No really. Leica and Panasonic announced a collaboration a few years back. In short, they will share more technology going forward, most notably processors. The S5ii is the first camera to come out of this collaboration, and the SL3 is the second. They are very different cameras, even if they share some components. The S5 is a 24MP video-focused entry-level camera, whereas the SL3 is a high-resolution stills-focused camera.

I suspect that Panasonic will eventually release a high-resolution camera (a successor to their S1r), and Leica will release a lower-resolution camera (successor to the SL2-S).

Even then, some of the hardware and software might be the same, but the build quality, user interface, colour response, etc. are different.

[AZN]

5 hours ago, ccalberti1953 said:

"Of course, the A7R4 menus might be a little different than my A74 menus."

 

Apparently it was an A74, not an R4.

There's your problem right there.  

There is no…

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Anti-Dust Function > Shutter When Pwr Off > ON

… in the latest Sony ⍺7RIV (ILCE-7RM4) firmware v1.20.

Thought it was too good to be true 🤔

[ccalberti1953]

9 minutes ago, AZN said:

There's your problem right there.  

There is no…

… in the latest Sony ⍺7RIV (ILCE-7RM4) firmware v1.20.

Thought it was too good to be true 🤔

Oh, well, very sorry about that.  Makes no sense, but Sony's settings are so ridiculously complicated that I expect their engineers have a hard time keeping them straight from camera to camera.  That's why I shoot my A7R5 for BIF and wildlife only and my Leicas for everything else.

[Photoworks]

21 hours ago, BernardC said:

Even then, some of the hardware and software might be the same, but the build quality, user interface, colour response, etc. are different.

did you ever compare images from SL2s and S5II? same colors!

they collaborate more than you think, since the original SL, and before that on all the little cameras

[jiggyb21]

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33 minutes ago, Photoworks said:

did you ever compare images from SL2s and S5II? same colors!

they collaborate more than you think, since the original SL, and before that on all the little cameras

I own both and I actually just did this yesterday . You can not tell the files apart. 

[BernardC]

1 hour ago, Photoworks said:

did you ever compare images from SL2s and S5II? same colors!

they collaborate more than you think, since the original SL, and before that on all the little cameras

They've collaborated from the start of the SL system (and before with some compact cameras), but this new chapter of their collaboration encompasses more elements. For instance, Leica and Panasonic now use the same family of image processors. Previously, Leica's "Maestro" processor came from Fujitsu. That's a win-win for either party. Not only can they place larger orders with their suppliers, they also don't need to duplicate all of the "plumbing" work: code libraries, I/O specifications, etc.

The collaboration goes both ways. Panasonic has a lot to learn from Leica in terms of colour science. Evidently, the S5ii uses some of this expertise, which is why their colour response is a lot more similar than it used to be.

[ccalberti1953]

On 4/17/2024 at 8:14 AM, jaapv said:

My point is that it is a placebo and slows the camera down by an extra shutter cycle. Plus the added complication that it is easier to destroy a shutter than a sensor.

 

On 4/20/2024 at 12:08 PM, jaapv said:

Shutter shake set the rest apart from previous Leica cameras. Not the shutter movement marketing.

In a placebo situation about 30%-50% will report a positive result. 

I don't use Leica either for birds and wildlife , it is Panasonic S. However, those don't  cover the sensor either. Despite that I never have dust problems in places like the Kalahari and other dry places. 

As said, dust on the shutter will end up on the sensor sooner rather than later. 

I owe jaapv a mea culpa.  I have recently found dust on my M10-R, which has the sensor cover, so you were correct that merely having the sensor cover does not prevent the problem.  Indeed, I need to go through a couple of steps to open the sensor cover to clean the sensor.