glenerrolrd Posted November 20, 2007 Share #1 Posted November 20, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) A few weeks ago I started a thread on street shooting with Peter Turnley. There was a lot of good give and take about technique and of course putting together the best M8 system for street shooting. Lots of discussion about approaching strangers etc ..obviously different approaches work for different people. One area we did not discuss ..was the importance of location....getting yourself in a position were success is a logical outcome. Prague and Budapest were just outstanding locations for street photography..just walk out the door of the hotel ..4 hours of walking and you have 500 new images to edit. But now having returned to my normal more familiar home in Florida .... I am itching to find new locations. One that I have been considering is RIO for carnival. Peter Turnley is leading another 10 day travel/workshop (available thru the Maine Photographic Resources ).....this could be an ideal situation as I would surely miss a lot if I just went to Rio by myself. I attached a picture of Peter in action to reinforce the benefits of getting close and of course location. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/38546-street-shooting-with-peter-turnley-part-two-locations/?do=findComment&comment=407977'>More sharing options...
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Daniel Ortego Posted November 21, 2007 Share #2 Posted November 21, 2007 Nice shot although it's amazing how we all like to find such appealing subjects. Regards, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afineman Posted November 21, 2007 Share #3 Posted November 21, 2007 Where in Flordia do you live? And what makes the 4 hour walk from around your house "unappealing"? I think the suburbs and country make for great street shooting (granted I say this from my apartment in New York City). So, while you can pay for workshops with photographers like Peter, you can do some even more interesting work (in my opinion) by simply shooting your everyday life. Heck, you might even get a book out of it. Happy Turkey Day to all of us on this side of the pond. -Aaron PS> A great way to get through the holidays with family is through taking pictures, the camera provides a nice barrier of dealing with family members ;-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted November 21, 2007 Share #4 Posted November 21, 2007 The reason a hometown - and I'm refering to most people here - doesn't seem as appealing to a photographer as somewhere more exotic is precisly because it's familiar. Bus in someone in who'd never been there before and I almost guarantee they'd find something of interest that to you looks ordinary and boring. It's about seeing the pictures, they're all around you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afineman Posted November 21, 2007 Share #5 Posted November 21, 2007 Steve, I understand what you mean. I grew up in a small town in the south, but now I live in NYC. However, I find small towns more interesting to photograph than the city that I live in. That said, perhaps someone should make a workshop where photographers learn to photograph the block they live on. That was an assignment that Fred Ritchen gave us in College a long time ago, and it was probably one of the best assignments that I ever had. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted November 21, 2007 Share #6 Posted November 21, 2007 Hmm, I'm going to play devils advocate and suggest it is also to do with comfort zones. Prague, Rio, busy 'target rich' enviroments, and full of tourists with cameras so you can shoot away with little notice. If you are with a group its also a case of 'safety in numbers'. Look at the lady above - I'm sure she's delighted to have her photo taken, she's part of the event so getting close isn't an issue if the subject is perfectly happy and willing to co-operate. Walk around your home town and find images. Take shots of everyday life around you. Social documentary images which will be fascinating in years to come, people's fashions, the cars, the buildings, furnishings etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afineman Posted November 21, 2007 Share #7 Posted November 21, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sure, but what's the fun in that? (just kidding). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted November 21, 2007 Share #8 Posted November 21, 2007 That said, perhaps someone should make a workshop where photographers learn to photograph the block they live on. I did once suggest a competition where people had to submit a photograph taken within 100 metres of their house/flat <grin> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenerrolrd Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share #9 Posted November 21, 2007 I should not have implied that I can t find anything to shoot in Florida. I live in Jupiter which is about 10 miles North of Palm Beach . I am shooting two personal portfolios at places on the beach . The big advantage is that I can return everyday ..try different times, different weather etc. and build a portfolio over time. This was what I saw in the Czech and Hungarian photographers ...when they picked a subject they returned for literally years . One portfolio is on Kite Boarders and the other on local fisherman at our pier .. Both straight forward assignments. There is plenty to shoot and the regulars all know me ..so I can shoot anyone anytime ..or at least thats how I feel. Whats missing is the coaching and daily feedback coupled with the target rich environment..that I experienced in Prague. So I am working on both ..some personal assignments and periodic workshops with Peter. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/38546-street-shooting-with-peter-turnley-part-two-locations/?do=findComment&comment=408515'>More sharing options...
afineman Posted November 21, 2007 Share #10 Posted November 21, 2007 Yes it is nice to get regular feedback while working on projects. I meet with a group of photographers once a month and we give eachother feedback on our projects. And here is some feedback from the 3 images you posted... I love the shot of the pier, great tones and composition. The kiteboarders are nice, but I would like to see something a bit less obvious, possibly wider. That is my personal opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenerrolrd Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share #11 Posted November 21, 2007 Thanks for the feedback ..I don t want to divert the thread into my work in progress..I was trying to show what kiteboarding looks like. I will post my portfolio in progress as it may be helpful to get feedback soon. On locations....my premise is that it matters and finding the best way to get to good locations and position yourself for success is the key. Looking for others that have had some success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WPalank Posted November 21, 2007 Share #12 Posted November 21, 2007 Roger, I couldn't disagree more with "afineman" regarding your kite surfing images. The tighter the better. I think they are perfect. It's about the body movements and facial expressions that would have been lost if you went wide. IMHO, great job! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afineman Posted November 21, 2007 Share #13 Posted November 21, 2007 I am not saying that the tight images are no good. But I would like to see the context of the kite. And while everyone is entitled to their opinions, I personally prefer more "abstract" journalistic images. I am not trying to get into an argument here, simply trying to explaign my opinion better. -Aaron Lee Fineman http://www.aaronleefineman.com Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted November 21, 2007 Share #14 Posted November 21, 2007 Roger, Forgive me, but those are NOT street images. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenerrolrd Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share #15 Posted November 21, 2007 In Florida ....the beach is the street Image 1 ...dad walking his sons ....Image 2 .....guy walking his dog........but you are correct its difficult to create a visual narrative... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/38546-street-shooting-with-peter-turnley-part-two-locations/?do=findComment&comment=408682'>More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted November 22, 2007 Share #16 Posted November 22, 2007 In Florida ....the beach is the street Image 1 ...dad walking his sons ....Image 2 .....guy walking his dog........but you are correct its difficult to create a visual narrative... Hi Roger, I think that second picture is quite interesting and its one of those rare pictures, made in color, that is actually a *color* picture. Thank goodness for that leash and the trail it made in the water, together they're essential to the form. It would be interesting if another color in the frame could have added to the cord that begins with the coloration of that man's leg -- although the sky starts to play that role. As you might know, I share your interest in this subject and spend about 8 hours per day (for about 5 weeks) photographing on Florida beaches and surrounding areas. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenerrolrd Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share #17 Posted November 22, 2007 Hi Roger, I think that second picture is quite interesting and its one of those rare pictures, made in color, that is actually a *color* picture. Thank goodness for that leash and the trail it made in the water, together they're essential to the form. It would be interesting if another color in the frame could have added to the cord that begins with the coloration of that man's leg -- although the sky starts to play that role. As you might know, I share your interest in this subject and spend about 8 hours per day (for about 5 weeks) photographing on Florida beaches and surrounding areas. Cheers, Sean Thank you for the input...When I took that shot I am sure I only really saw the man in the foreground...and then I waited until the kite boarder appeared. The dogs action was luck and I would have liked him to be a little larger in the image I needed to be closer or to catch him earlier in his run. When you come to Florida ..if you let me know I would be happy to show you the area around Jupiter/Palm Beach. The Juno Beach Pier is worth a visit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted November 22, 2007 Share #18 Posted November 22, 2007 Thank you for the input...When I took that shot I am sure I only really saw the man in the foreground...and then I waited until the kite boarder appeared. The dogs action was luck and I would have liked him to be a little larger in the image I needed to be closer or to catch him earlier in his run. When you come to Florida ..if you let me know I would be happy to show you the area around Jupiter/Palm Beach. The Juno Beach Pier is worth a visit. Thanks Roger, will do. I'll be working down there from late February through March. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidigital Posted November 22, 2007 Share #19 Posted November 22, 2007 Hi Roger, are the kite close-up shots with the DMR and module system? If so, they are a little more accomplished (with manual focus) then you are letting on. I think they look great. I also like shot of the father and kids with the kite surfer in the background. IMHO, the definition of street shooting can be extended to the observational viewpoint of finding the universal themes that you as the photographer happen to recognize in the scenes that unfold before you in a variety of familiar and unfamilar settings. It's how you are able to convey your observations to your audience in your resulting images that defines whether and how successful you were in your ability to make that connection. Kurt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenerrolrd Posted November 22, 2007 Author Share #20 Posted November 22, 2007 Hi Roger, are the kite close-up shots with the DMR and module system? If so, they are a little more accomplished (with manual focus) then you are letting on. I think they look great. I also like shot of the father and kids with the kite surfer in the background. IMHO, the definition of street shooting can be extended to the observational viewpoint of finding the universal themes that you as the photographer happen to recognize in the scenes that unfold before you in a variety of familiar and unfamilar settings. It's how you are able to convey your observations to your audience in your resulting images that defines whether and how successful you were in your ability to make that connection. Kurt Without looking I believe the action shots were using the DMR...I have tried several alternatives. The best has been the 180/2.8 APO which I used sometimes with the 1.4APO extender..hand held. I also used the 400/4.0 Module Telyt (small head and the 1.4 modue) which is my favorite on a large Gitzo monopod. You have to guess where the boarder will be by watching the waves and then bracket ...my way of explaining the missed focus. The action shots are necessary to tell the story and to use as" bribes " for the boarders....I am finding it very difficult to blend a portfolio from long tight telephotos and wide angles....forcing myself to work with the 21 on the M8 as much as possible and staring to use the 35 summicron to create a wider view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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