Please help us Q3 Users (Q/Q2 also?)- Firmware update

[MindsEye]

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Hi All,

This is just a simple request to please contact Leica via Fotos Feature Reuqest or some other way and ask them, for the next firware update, to please provide an option of true digital zoom viewing (i.e. magnified image) in/on the EVF and LCD, as an additonal option, to the frame lines. 

I have already sent my request but obviously the more users that do this, the more chance we'll see it. I'm guessing this is something valueable to everyone but if not, one can always use the frame lines already there. If it doesn't interest you personally, why not help out your fellow Q3 users anyway 😊

Please understand I'm not posting this to debate the merits of frame lines or pit the Leica ethos of framelines against a true zoomed in view. I'm just being practical. Anyone in their 40s/50s or older (myself and probably most Leica owners) can benefit from a magnified view for digital zoom, especially the longer focal lengths. I have it on other cameras and it's immensely useful. This is an all digital camera after all and though I understand maintaining Leica M heritage using frame lines, it doesn't negate the usefulness of an additional option.

Thanks in advance!

If this request has been posted elsewhere and I missed it, my apologies.

Happy shooting! (and squinting with 90mm frame line in your Q3 🤣)

Joel

[Miltz]

I messaged them weeks ago. We should have the option to turn it on and off. I hope they listen. 

[Knorp]

In any case, they could let us know whether this request is even possible or not ... 🫡

[Guest]

If Leica were to do this then the last tenuous link between the M series and the Q series would be broken and the Leica mystique would evaporate.  People would start to want other features such as decent firmware, reasonable performance, good AF and a sensible price. 

Be careful what you wish for! 

[Knorp]

Just let’s have that last tenuous link evaporate. You can always buy an M-series for that “Leica mystique” … 🙃

[Simone_DF]

16 hours ago, Knorp said:

In any case, they could let us know whether this request is even possible or not ... 🫡

Of course it's possible. It's possible in ALL cameras equipped with a EVF, including Leica's (SL2 etc).

[Simone_DF]

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15 hours ago, Corius said:

If Leica were to do this then the last tenuous link between the M series and the Q series would be broken and the Leica mystique would evaporate.

Apart from the shape and the framelines, what is the link between the M and the Q? I find the Q to be more similar to the SL than the M.

[adrianh]

I don't buy into that framelines story for any other reasons other than  M heritage linkage (aka marketing).

If they would like to give us a view outside the real captured image as to be able to see what is going to run/walk into the picture in the next seconds they would implement it already at 28mm and leave that space outside the framelines constant irrespective of the crop factor. If they are serious about the crop modes beeing used on a regular basis they should give us auto zoom. Simulating a half century old system designed for film in a camera that has all the newest bells and whistles is complete BS. 

[vitrail]

Personally, I like these frames, especially the 35 which is my default target.
In the jpg+Dng case, the frame of 28 recalls the available Dng.
Perhaps in jpg only, have the possibility of displaying the final frame on the Evf?

[adrianh]

Well, at 35mm, the framelines are usable. Try it with 90mm. Makes absolutely no sense. 

[Knorp]

3 hours ago, Simone_DF said:

Of course it's possible. It's possible in ALL cameras equipped with a EVF, including Leica's (SL2 etc).

Really ? Mmm, besides an M3 (and the Q3) I don't have a recent Leica and my Fuji has no frame lines ... 🙃

Anyway, the idea is whether it is technically possible for the Q3 or not. Next step, is Leica willing to implement this feature.

I'm keeping fingers crossed !

Edited November 18, 2023 by Knorp

[Simone_DF]

15 hours ago, Knorp said:

Really ? Mmm, besides an M3 (and the Q3) I don't have a recent Leica and my Fuji has no frame lines ... 🙃

Anyway, the idea is whether it is technically possible for the Q3 or not. Next step, is Leica willing to implement this feature.

I'm keeping fingers crossed !

It's not a matter of framelines, it's a matter of EVFs. With an EVF you can zoom and see a zoomed image. All that is needed for Leica is to set that when a zoom level is selected (eg to simulate a 50mm view) then the view is fixed. Done. 

[Dr. G]

The only reason I can see for not doing it this way is that you can forget that you’re in a crop mode if it fills the whole EVF view.  I’m sure there’s a few ways to deal with this - distinct color coded borders for each crop mode could work, or some other obvious indicator.  It would probably only be an issue for some at 35mm, the other views would probably be readily discernible.  

Edited November 27, 2023 by Dr. G

[Qwertynm]

vor 9 Stunden schrieb Dr. G:

The only reason I can see for not doing it this way is (...)

The only reason I see is to draw a line to the Leica M. There is no other logical reason as it could easily be implemented in a firmware update. My Ricoh GR III zooms in in crop mode, my Canon R5 zooms in in APS-C mode. There is no reason for the Q not to zoom in in crop mode other than a certain "design language" or "brand language" barrier. This is a deliberate decision by Leica and so far they have been sticking to it. I think a menu option for the user to choose from whether someone wants a zoomed in view or not would be best.

So please, if you want that option keep asking trough the support email address. Ask multiple times, as the more users ask, the more likely it will become we'll see that option in a future firmware update.

Edited November 27, 2023 by Qwertynm

[Le Chef]

If you can get 3x and 6x magnification when focusing manually then Leica can easily do this for 35/50/75mm crops. The only issue might be using continuous focus and the (lack of) processing power in the camera to accurately show what’s there in real time.

[zyThuM]

Another way to implement this, would be by magnifying to the previous crop mode, that way 35 mm crop mode wouldn't be magnified, then 50 mm crop mode would be magnified to 35 mm, then 70 mm crop mode would be magnified to 50 mm and finally 90 mm would be magnified to 75 mm.  

This way we could have the Leica M link, but bringing some useful solution to the crop mode, which I used quite a lot but it can be definitely improved. 

[avnidvyi]

i love those lines, but options in settings should be nice.

[MindsEye]

On 11/18/2023 at 7:02 AM, vitrail said:

Perhaps in jpg only, have the possibility of displaying the final frame on the Evf?

The Q3 already shows you the frame you just shot with the crop implemented. The point is to be able to see it while you're shooting. And there is no reason to have to get rid of the framelines for those that want them. We just want to have that choice.

[Knorp]

1 hour ago, MindsEye said:

The Q3 already shows you the frame you just shot with the crop implemented. The point is to be able to see it while you're shooting. And there is no reason to have to get rid of the framelines for those that want them. We just want to have that choice.

Exactly ! We want, no demand, more choice ! C'mon Leica how hard can it be ...

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