bradreiman Posted November 20, 2007 Share #21 Posted November 20, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) m users like it the way it is. those from an slr background want the bells and whistles (on this thread at least). Thankfully I trust Leica will keep the speed dial the way it is since the m6, you turn the wheel with index finger the direction the arrow in the viewfinder is pointing. It's so simple I feel it is divinely inspired. I too have ev set to -2/3. If I have to change "film" -I go to the menu.....B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hankg Posted November 20, 2007 Share #22 Posted November 20, 2007 m users like it the way it is. those from an slr background want the bells and whistles (on this thread at least). Thankfully I trust Leica will keep the speed dial the way it is since the m6, you turn the wheel with index finger the direction the arrow in the viewfinder is pointing. It's so simple I feel it is divinely inspired. I too have ev set to -2/3. If I have to change "film" -I go to the menu.....B I've been using rangefinders both M and medium format for 30 years. For most of that time it's been a hand held meter and manual exposure. I still carry the tiny Gossen Digiflash meter everywhere. The M8 has an auto exposure mode and making it functional on a pro level has nothing to do with making it more like an SLR (the shutter speed dial is just fine where it is). Yes I can use manual mode -and now that Leica has decided not to make any changes to the firmware that's what I'll do. But what was the point of having an AE mode on the M8 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 20, 2007 Share #23 Posted November 20, 2007 Probably the same as AWB - market demand... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradreiman Posted November 20, 2007 Share #24 Posted November 20, 2007 I've been using rangefinders both M and medium format for 30 years. For most of that time it's been a hand held meter and manual exposure. I still carry the tiny Gossen Digiflash meter everywhere. The M8 has an auto exposure mode and making it functional on a pro level has nothing to do with making it more like an SLR (the shutter speed dial is just fine where it is). Yes I can use manual mode -and now that Leica has decided not to make any changes to the firmware that's what I'll do. But what was the point of having an AE mode on the M8 ? Ok Sorry-I think we are mostly in agreement. I sometimes use AE on the m8 though and I find it incredibly accurate in normal light conditions (ie: not in the dark or in the snow, on water etc). It is a spot meter though so point-lock-recompose is the order of the day. That hasn't changed since the m7 as far as I can tell...B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankg Posted November 20, 2007 Share #25 Posted November 20, 2007 Probably the same as AWB - market demand... I'm sure that's right but if you are going to do it - do it right. Even in AE mode it should operate like an M not a consumer digicam. The WB issue I can live with as a RAW shooter it has zero impact on quality but exposure does impact quality and is a much less forgiving element of image capture. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradreiman Posted November 20, 2007 Share #26 Posted November 20, 2007 Hank I went back and reread your first post. Question-Do you have any ev comp dialed in as a set "bias" when shooting in AE? It sounds like you are getting more "blown" highlights than you want in AE. This is why I always have my m8 set to -2/3. There is so much more latitude in post in the darks than the highlights and -2/3 seems to be the sweetspot-at least for me. Or do you have problems in both directions? Brad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankg Posted November 20, 2007 Share #27 Posted November 20, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hank I went back and reread your first post. Question-Do you have any ev comp dialed in as a set "bias" when shooting in AE? It sounds like you are getting more "blown" highlights than you want in AE. This is why I always have my m8 set to -2/3. There is so much more latitude in post in the darks than the highlights and -2/3 seems to be the sweetspot-at least for me. Or do you have problems in both directions? Brad I'm at -2/3 as well. I don't expose to the right with the M8 as there is so much latitude in post in pulling up the shadows and things can get ugly fast in the highlights. For many situations AE is OK but I'll be using manual a lot more as I find AE does not cut it always just at the wrong moment (Murphys law). I usually know I want a stop or 2 and pointing the camera all over the place trying to find the reading I want to lock in sometimes is easy and sometimes means you missed the shot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradreiman Posted November 20, 2007 Share #28 Posted November 20, 2007 I see. we are on the same page. Maybe a choice of metering modes a la the digilux2 with its 3 modes would be nice...next M(9) or whatever probably....B Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_l Posted November 20, 2007 Share #29 Posted November 20, 2007 it is a nearly incomprehensible shame that Leica managed in the M8 to fix the fatal flaws in the Digilix 2 (no shot buffer, etc) and at the same time totally screwed up the things that the digilix did right - quick set function for 4user-selected parameters and multiple metering modes, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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