Shepherdphotographer Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share #21 Posted May 19, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) I would like to do another thing: since the colors depend both on the sensor and on the lens, I would like to try to emulate the fel Summilux-M 28/1.4 ASPH color yield: do you know if it is allowed to post a link to a photo on this forum from another forum, to show the colors I'm looking for? I ask, because on another forum I saw several photos of an author who shoots with the Leica SL (TYP 601), but systematically obtains different colors, a color yield very different from mine when using the Summilux-M 28/1.4 ASPH : instead of buying this lens, which I would use very little focal length, COULD I GET THE SAME COLORS WITH LIGHTROOM? If it were possible, I would report the link of one of those photos here on this forum, to make you understand..... I hope that some moderator or administrator will read my topic...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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250swb Posted May 19, 2023 Share #22 Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Shepherdphotographer said: COULD I GET THE SAME COLORS WITH LIGHTROOM? To emulate the colours in somebody else's photograph you'd first need to know if or how they have done any post processing, but it's often possible to guess if the colours look unrealistic. Doing it subtly is the skill, but it can all be done in Lightroom. Increasing the colour saturation and/or the contrast of the image will make colours 'pop'. So in Lightroom the first thing I would do as a reference is to press 'Auto Color' and 'Auto Contrast' and see how this affects the image. You'd don't have to like it or stick with it, but as a reference doing one or the other every now and again while processing the image as a check can be worthwhile. Cancel the command each time if you don't like what 'Auto' is doing. Edited May 19, 2023 by 250swb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share #23 Posted May 19, 2023 I contacted the author and he told me that he used very little post-production, so I think the yield is typical of that lens, but it could also be fake..... The lens costs a lot and I use the 28mm little...... I don't like auto settings....... and auto settings results....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbaric Posted May 19, 2023 Share #24 Posted May 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Shepherdphotographer said: I noticed that all the default files already present in those two folders, which are, of course, exactly the ones I could choose in the LR development module, have the AdobeLightroom.Irtemplate extension in the folder: probably LR doesn't recognize, isn't able to read the XMP extension of my profiles...... If someone would be so kind as to help me, please....... Thank you. I think support for saved presets in .xmp format wasn't introduced until a later version of LR (one of the Creative Cloud releases) so you would presumably need to obtain equivalent presets in the older .lrtemplate format. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share #25 Posted May 19, 2023 @ anbaric Thank you, how could I do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted May 19, 2023 Share #26 Posted May 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Shepherdphotographer said: I don't like auto settings....... and auto settings results....... So what is a camera profile then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share #27 Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 10 minutes ago, 250swb said: So what is a camera profile then? I meant I don't like clicking on "Auto Saturation", "Auto Contrast", etc......!! ......And I probably wouldn't be happy with the results...... Edited May 19, 2023 by Shepherdphotographer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted May 19, 2023 Share #28 Posted May 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Shepherdphotographer said: @ LocalHero1953 Yes, I have done, but I have understood that it is very difficult to create a universal preset, so you have to change something in every one photo..... It is a long time since I used Lightroom 3, but can you not save a particular group of settings as a Preset? If so, then you can just define that as an import preset, which is applied to every photo you import - I believe this was also possible in Lightroom 3. I'm afraid you will have to put up with ignorant comments here: most of us left Lightroom 3 behind many years ago! Do you have the possibility to upgrade? Either to a subscription to Lightroom (about €120/year) or one of the decent stand-alone apps, like Affinity Photo, for about half that, or a free app like Rawtherappee? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted May 19, 2023 Share #29 Posted May 19, 2023 4 hours ago, Shepherdphotographer said: I meant I don't like clicking on "Auto Saturation", "Auto Contrast", etc......!! ......And I probably wouldn't be happy with the results...... I don't think there is such a thing as 'Auto Saturation' since it's a judgement or written into the cameras firmware, but 'Auto Contrast' simply puts your dark and light points into the 0-255 colour scale. I suggested using it simply as a check at various stages as post processing can give tunnel vision where the natural contrast of the image is lost or forgotten about. Look at many of the photos published online by amateurs and you will realise they have little understanding of the histogram and contrast, especially when it comes to dealing with highlights. But good luck, I think you'll need it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share #30 Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) @250swb Yes, I know there isn't "auto contrast" or "auto saturation" into the camera....... Actually, the solution to the problem is very simple....... Buy a current version of Lightroom, or create custom presets for different types of shots, or (I think it will be the option I'll choose), retouch each photos one by one. Edited May 19, 2023 by Shepherdphotographer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share #31 Posted May 19, 2023 (edited) @ LocalHero1953: Thank you. I have got RAWTherapee, bit it doesn't recognize my xmp profiles. I will buy a recent version of Lightroom, or I will retouch each photo, one by one. Edited May 19, 2023 by Shepherdphotographer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted May 19, 2023 Share #32 Posted May 19, 2023 2 hours ago, Shepherdphotographer said: Actually, the solution to the problem is very simple....... Buy a current version of Lightroom, Ok one last try, do I detect from ‘buy a current version of Lightroom’ that you aren’t able to process certain files in ACR simply because you are using an old version of ACR that is no longer compatible with more modern camera files? If so ‘Adobe dng’ can be downloaded free as a standalone RAW converter and should be able to process all your files from M9 to SL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted May 19, 2023 Author Share #33 Posted May 19, 2023 ok, thanks, but really I should transform COLORS FROM SL TO M9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share #34 Posted May 20, 2023 (edited) Hello everyone, I found a software that allows you to convert profiles with the .XMP extension into Lightroom Irtemplates: I converted the m9 profile I had and copied it to the subfolder that you kindly indicated to me, both in the presets of LR, and in that of the user presets: thank you for this, ie for the indication of the subfolder, in particular Frame-it. I opened Lightroom and it appears among the presets: I tried to apply the new profile and it works!!!! However I think for the most important photos I will manually touch up the photo with Lightroom, as well as have the photo processed with the profile of the M9. The software link is as follows: http://presetconverter.com/?i=1 Edited May 20, 2023 by Shepherdphotographer 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share #35 Posted May 20, 2023 Now back to another question I asked in this topic: could I get a profile with the colors of the Summilux-M 28/1.4 ASPH, to be applied in the same way on LR 3, without buying the lens, which costs a lot? I also use the 28mm focal length a little....... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marchyman Posted May 20, 2023 Share #36 Posted May 20, 2023 9 hours ago, Shepherdphotographer said: could I get a profile with the colors of ... Get? My guess is no. But that is only a guess. However you may be able to make such a profile. To do that you'd likely need the newest Adobe tools and there is no guarantee that the created profile could be converted to a profile that works with your version of Lightroom. I'm pretty sure Adobe Bridge is free as long as you register. Bridge includes Adobe Camera Raw. You can create a profile using Adobe Camera Raw. Open an image in ACR from Bridge. Set the profile to Adobe Standard (that may no longer be required -- not sure). Adjust as you like. Don't overlook the Calibration tool in getting the look you want. There is a button that creates a new preset. If you hold down the alt/option key when clicking that button it instead creates a profile. You'd then have to convert the profile -- if possible -- to a format that could be read by your version of Lightroom. Would it work? I don't know. If you have the time and desire you can play and find out. If you do you might want to prepare yourself to be disappointed. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share #37 Posted May 20, 2023 I'm really satisfied.....!!!!! Ah ah ah!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shepherdphotographer Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share #38 Posted May 21, 2023 I sincerely thank everyone for their patience and availability. I wish I could help someone too, but my knowledge is limited to R-lenses, which I know much less than the majority of you....... Thanks! In this topic, the issue of emulating the yield of a lens remains unresolved, in particular that of the Summilux-M 28/1.4 ASPH, but I believe that emulating a lens is only possible to a limited extent...... Each lens has the own personality and is not different from the others only in hue, saturation, luminance, contrast, openness in the shadows..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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