telemaster Posted April 17, 2023 Share #1 Posted April 17, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi, There are 3 Germanys in one camera. what does this show? Since those parts were individual parts before the modification of the A model, were there any rules for importing and exporting each stamp? If you have any information regarding this matter, please let me know. The opening/closing display of the bottom lid is Open and Close, and the tripod socket is an export type with a small hole. Now that it has been remodeled, there is no way to confirm it, but do you think there was a "Germany" stamp on the side of the A-type viewfinder? I got this as a body alone, so I can't confirm if the lens that was once attached was in feet notation. Thanks. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! You can see the screw that attaches the infinity stopper to the side of the mount. However, the hockey stick has never been attached, and the screw is only blocking light.I confirmed the German carved seal under the accessory shoe. The serial number is stamped instead of inlaid, and the font and stamping position are strange.accessory shoeWas it necessary to indicate "Germany" for items supplied as individual parts?I confirmed the German engraving even on the back of the mount, which can never be seen without disassembling.The part where the rangefinder cover was removed is also painted, proving that this camera originally did not have a rangefinder.There are unused screw holes in the bodyshell. Roman numerals often seen on the A model and the light shielding plate on the shutter drum seen on the C model and lateryellow filterI feel it in the way American numbers are written, especially "1".The hole in the tripod mount is small and the opening/closing is written in English. 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! You can see the screw that attaches the infinity stopper to the side of the mount. However, the hockey stick has never been attached, and the screw is only blocking light.I confirmed the German carved seal under the accessory shoe. The serial number is stamped instead of inlaid, and the font and stamping position are strange.accessory shoeWas it necessary to indicate "Germany" for items supplied as individual parts?I confirmed the German engraving even on the back of the mount, which can never be seen without disassembling.The part where the rangefinder cover was removed is also painted, proving that this camera originally did not have a rangefinder.There are unused screw holes in the bodyshell. Roman numerals often seen on the A model and the light shielding plate on the shutter drum seen on the C model and lateryellow filterI feel it in the way American numbers are written, especially "1".The hole in the tripod mount is small and the opening/closing is written in English. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375658-leica-with-lots-of-germany/?do=findComment&comment=4752451'>More sharing options...
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romanus53 Posted April 17, 2023 Share #2 Posted April 17, 2023 Maybe a repair or upgrade made outside of Germany, perhaps Leitz New York? Mixed parts but look mostly authentic to me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anbaric Posted April 17, 2023 Share #3 Posted April 17, 2023 What was the general policy on engraving 'open/close' in English on the bottom plate in the 1930s? I have one camera from 1936 with a bilingual bottom plate, presumably engraved for export, but another (the one I mention in the thread about delivery dates) with only the auf/zu engraving, though I know the body at least was exported to the UK in 1939. Does this suggest a non-original bottom plate, or does it just mean (as with many other things about vintage Leicas!) that they didn't do this consistently? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telemaster Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share #4 Posted April 18, 2023 7 hours ago, romanus53 said: Maybe a repair or upgrade made outside of Germany, perhaps Leitz New York? Mixed parts but look mostly authentic to me. I am convinced that it must be a genuine modification, but I thought that it was done in a different factory and in a different environment because the vocabulary is different here and there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuliobigazzi Posted April 18, 2023 Share #5 Posted April 18, 2023 To me it looks consistent with upgrades to model D done at Leitz London in 1932, see different engraving font 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuliobigazzi Posted April 18, 2023 Share #6 Posted April 18, 2023 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375658-leica-with-lots-of-germany/?do=findComment&comment=4752766'>More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted April 18, 2023 Share #7 Posted April 18, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Finally (not looking at phone-screen but something bigger 😉) I can see that the original serial number on the chassis was scratched and transferred to the new rangfider-cover and was also scratched inside, so everything look pretty authentic although not Wetzlar as the "Germany" indicates. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuliobigazzi Posted April 18, 2023 Share #8 Posted April 18, 2023 (edited) Here is another Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited April 18, 2023 by Giuliobigazzi Crop 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/375658-leica-with-lots-of-germany/?do=findComment&comment=4752769'>More sharing options...
telemaster Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share #9 Posted April 18, 2023 31 minutes ago, Giuliobigazzi said: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Thank you, this is his friends too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telemaster Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share #10 Posted April 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, Giuliobigazzi said: Here is another Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! oh same camera I pasted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telemaster Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share #11 Posted April 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, romanus53 said: Finally (not looking at phone-screen but something bigger 😉) I can see that the original serial number on the chassis was scratched and transferred to the new rangfider-cover and was also scratched inside, so everything look pretty authentic although not Wetzlar as the "Germany" indicates. Are the handwritten numbers inside by German? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted April 18, 2023 Share #12 Posted April 18, 2023 vor 10 Minuten schrieb telemaster: Are the handwritten numbers inside by German? It was normal to make some marks or numbers on parts or inside the bodies in mechanical workshops at that time. On the shown camera the number inside the rangefinder-cover might be used to indicate the correct number for this spare-part to be engraved or stamped on the top before fitting it to the prepaired camera-body. You can find body-numbers written inside the bottom-plate when taking them apart at a repair-shop. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telemaster Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share #13 Posted April 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, romanus53 said: It was normal to make some marks or numbers on parts or inside the bodies in mechanical workshops at that time. On the shown camera the number inside the rangefinder-cover might be used to indicate the correct number for this spare-part to be engraved or stamped on the top before fitting it to the prepaired camera-body. You can find body-numbers written inside the bottom-plate when taking them apart at a repair-shop. Yes, I understand that too. I often see cases written in pencil on the bottom lid. You can also check the scratched numbers just below the slow shutter speed dial. I'm curious as to where those handwritings belong. Numbers such as "7" are written differently in different countries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romanus53 Posted April 18, 2023 Share #14 Posted April 18, 2023 often discussed here, just look for "conversion" https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/349272-double-checking-the-serial-numbers-inside-barnacks/#comment-4574015 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
telemaster Posted April 18, 2023 Author Share #15 Posted April 18, 2023 4 hours ago, romanus53 said: often discussed here, just look for "conversion" https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/349272-double-checking-the-serial-numbers-inside-barnacks/#comment-4574015 In the stuff I've broken down so far, I've also had the same example that's shown in this discussion. We can check the presence or absence of paint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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