Filters for 250mm f4 Telyt-R and 180mm f2.8 Elmarit-R

[V2cruise]

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Hello all, I'm at my wits end!

I've been trying to figure out what filters these lenses use and cannot find correct information. Both are earlier models and the literature I've seen shows they use series 8 (and in one case series 8/5 for the telyt, whatever that is) filters but that does not appear to be the case.

I sourced a 67mm polarizer filter and a Leica series 8 - 67mm adapter but the adapter is not wide enough to thread into either lens. I've looked at several filter data bases and they all show the same information so I am hoping that someone has used one of these lenses and can shed some light on the subject. Thank you.

[dpitt]

Do you have the version I ? Then it is https://wiki.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/250mm_f/4_Telyt-R_I
And it can have either Series 8 or E55 filters. For Series 8 you need this
https://classic.leica-camera.com/at/en/lcc/Leica-14165-E72-Filter-adapter-for-Series-VIII/24454-19

For version II it is just E67 filters
https://wiki.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/250mm_f/4_Telyt-R_II

Version I of the 180mm Elmarit uses the same Series 8 filters as the 250mm
https://wiki.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/180mm_f/2.8_Elmarit-R_I

Version 2 is E67
https://wiki.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/180mm_f/2.8_Elmarit-R_II

[Lux50]

My 250/4 Telyt-R V1 uses Series 8 filters. A Series 8 UV & a Series 8 yellow filter are the only filters I have used with it in many years of ownership.

[V2cruise]

26 minutes ago, dpitt said:

Do you have the version I ? Then it is https://wiki.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/250mm_f/4_Telyt-R_I
And it can have either Series 8 or E55 filters. For Series 8 you need this
https://classic.leica-camera.com/at/en/lcc/Leica-14165-E72-Filter-adapter-for-Series-VIII/24454-19

For version II it is just E67 filters
https://wiki.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/250mm_f/4_Telyt-R_II

Version I of the 180mm Elmarit uses the same Series 8 filters as the 250mm
https://wiki.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/180mm_f/2.8_Elmarit-R_I

Version 2 is E67
https://wiki.l-camera-forum.com/leica-wiki.en/index.php/180mm_f/2.8_Elmarit-R_II

Thanks for your reply. I have version I and did see the wiki.l article saying it uses series 8 or E55 filters.  E55 filters didn't make much sense since that would be so much smaller than the lens thread and AFAIK there is no internal filtering.

It should be series 8 for both lenses but I have the Leica 14264 step ring to E67 and it is too narrow for the lens and will not attach. 

 

[V2cruise]

36 minutes ago, Lux50 said:

My 250/4 Telyt-R V1 uses Series 8 filters. A Series 8 UV & a Series 8 yellow filter are the only filters I have used with it in many years of ownership.

Thanks for your reply. What is the code for the retaining ring you use?

 

[Lux50]

The retaining ring is #14165.

[V2cruise]

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6 minutes ago, Lux50 said:

The retaining ring is #14165.

Thank you! It's so confusing, 14165 in my references show up like a step ring to E72 and 14169 is the code that appears as the retaining ring. 

Honestly, I used to find Leica L and M codes confusing but R is a whole new ballgame. I'm wondering if picking up the 14165 and a 72mm polarizing filter will be the best route for me.

[dpitt]

17 hours ago, V2cruise said:

Thanks for your reply. I have version I and did see the wiki.l article saying it uses series 8 or E55 filters.  E55 filters didn't make much sense since that would be so much smaller than the lens thread and AFAIK there is no internal filtering.

It should be series 8 for both lenses but I have the Leica 14264 step ring to E67 and it is too narrow for the lens and will not attach. 

 

Sorry V2Cruise, you are right E55 must be a mistake in the WIKI. I happen to have these two types of the 250mm F4 Telyt R (I).

One of them uses the 14165 ring for the series VIII filter. The other one is larger in diameter and it does not fit the 14165. I measured it to have 72,xx mm inner diameter. AFAIK this points to a E72 filter size.

Unfortunately I did not have a E72 filter at hand to confirm it fits.

Edited March 26, 2023 by dpitt

[V2cruise]

5 hours ago, dpitt said:

Sorry V2Cruise, you are right E55 must be a mistake in the WIKI. I happen to have these two types of the 250mm F4 Telyt R (I).

One of them uses the 14165 ring for the series VIII filter. The other one is larger in diameter and it does not fit the 14165. I measured it to have 72,xx mm inner diameter. AFAIK this points to a E72 filter size.

Unfortunately I did not have a E72 filter at hand to confirm it fits.

Well that explains a lot. So there are 2 versions of the 250mm Telyt-R! Unfortunately I also don't have a 72mm filter available but can probably stop by a camera store and see if it fits before purchasing something else. Thanks for sharing your knowledge on the subject.

Victor

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[StFreud]

For example this is my "solution": My 4/250 mm has a 72 mm screw mount (female). And I took a adapter 14165 to adapt a series 8 filter to a 72 mm screw mount to a lens. On the fotos you can see the details. The 14165 adapter has a diameter who fits into the lensbody. And a normal filter has as wider diameter as 72 mm, so it cannot screw into the objektiv. Another possibility is an 72 mm filter tube, so the filter could be outside of the front of the lens. I hope, my photos can explane my words it a bit better.

PS: The glue points fixed the series 8 filter in the adapter, because I hat first only one part of the adapter. A origin adapter has two parts normally.

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