Ozkar Posted October 24, 2007 Share #21 Posted October 24, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) If you intend to keep the 50mm it probably makes more sense to add a 28mm. This combination will provide greater flexibility than a 35/50 combo. The 28 Summicron is a great lens for all the reasons already mentioned. I might also add a few additional points that swayed my decision towards the the 28 Summicron over the 35 Summilux: 1. Focus shift is more likely to present a problem with the 35 Summilux. I do not recall reading too many cases of focus shift with the 28 Summicron. My sample is certainly spot on. 2. The 28 Summicron is sharp across the frame and at all apertures. I really like the flexibility to be able to place your subject anywhere in the frame, particularly when shooting wide open. This makes for very dramatic compositions given the beautiful bokeh of this lens. The 35 Summilux is very sharp in the centre but less so in the corners until it is stopped down a little. 3. The 28 Summicron is more resistant to flare than the 35 Summilux. It is so good in fact that I often shoot without the hood in very bright conditions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 24, 2007 Posted October 24, 2007 Hi Ozkar, Take a look here 28 F2 ASPH or 35 1.4 ASPH for M8 ?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
pelikan1931 Posted October 25, 2007 Share #22 Posted October 25, 2007 agree with Jack and Ozkar, sell all those lens you don't use and get a second body, and keep both "engines" running. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted October 25, 2007 Share #23 Posted October 25, 2007 I haven't got the 28 'cron but it's on the list However, the 35 Lux ASPH is nothing short of magic in my opinion. It has an almost perfect balance of contrast, colour, sharpness and beauty in OOF areas. It's fast and bulky, but still easy to focus and easy to focus "from the hip." It's a perfect "normal" FOV lens on the M8 and when I process with it, it's always the one that makes me go "wow" underneath my breath. Mine has no focus issues--there have been those that have them, it bears saying--but even though I generally shoot wider with the M8, the 35 Lux ASPH is still my all-time favourite M lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted October 25, 2007 Share #24 Posted October 25, 2007 "... the two lenses I keep on the M8 are the 50 Pre and 28 Cron." Cheers, Thanks for the confidence check, as I just purchased a 28 Cron' today. Regards, Great purchase you will love this lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted October 25, 2007 Share #25 Posted October 25, 2007 Thanks for the confidence check, as I just purchased a 28 Cron' today. Regards, You chose wisely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jager Posted October 25, 2007 Share #26 Posted October 25, 2007 If you're looking to keep a single lens, I think the 35 Lux is the better all-around choice. It sits in the focal length sweet spot on the M8, for many of us. But, as you note, the current 50 Lux is an exceptional lens, albeit one that's a bit tight. Putting the 28 Cron - another exceptional lens - with that gives you a combo which is really quite versatile. The 35 Lux ASPH was easily my favorite and most-used lens on my film M's. The 28/50 combo has replaced that on my M8 - although the 35 still gets called upon occasionally. All three lenses bring magic to the table... Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacker Posted October 26, 2007 Share #27 Posted October 26, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) "... the two lenses I keep on the M8 are the 50 Pre and 28 Cron." Cheers, Thanks for the confidence check, as I just purchased a 28 Cron' today. Regards, Where in the world do you get one of these things? I have ordered it (2 months ago but was told that others have been on the waiting list for 10 montsh now) and checked ebay and BHphoto and everywhere else. I need a 28 Cron! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveB Posted October 26, 2007 Share #28 Posted October 26, 2007 If I could only own two lenses it would be the 50 pre-asph, the 35 'cron and the CV 15. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t024484 Posted October 26, 2007 Share #29 Posted October 26, 2007 The 3 lenses I really use are the 15CV, the 28 Cron and the 50 Cron. No need for anything in between or above. My most used lens is the 28 Cron. Mostly I shoot from my belly, so I can capture people in a very natural pose. The 28 Cron is a superb lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
proenca Posted October 26, 2007 Author Share #30 Posted October 26, 2007 thank you all for so many opinions - all of the valuable - strange thing in a internet forum these days, specially when it comes down to digital photography. Just found the forum, so kudos for all. For now, my decision has been made - keeping the 50 lux is a no brainer ( just love this lens ) and I will most likely will ( 99% ) buy the 28mm. The comments about the way it renders the bokeh and its usefullness ( since I'm keeping the MP, I willl have a 28mm, 35mm ( 28 on the M8 ) , 50mm , and 75mm ( lux on M8 ) . Now thats nice with two lens and two bodies Most likely I will add a 15 or 18 in the future, but for now, let's ease the credit card of my M8 purchase and Asia trip, then buy the 28 and we will see Thanks again for all of your opinions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted October 26, 2007 Share #31 Posted October 26, 2007 Just to add my thoughts as re the likely 3rd lens candidate to the 28Cro/50Lux dynamic duo... In my case (and I resepct we all "see" differently) it would be hands-down the 21 Asph. IMO 21/28/50 makes an incredible trio for the M8. Add a 75 Lux or 90 Cron and you have an ideal quartet. Add a cv12 or 15 and you have an ideal quintet. Of course for somebody that see's differently and prefers the 35 to the 50, then I certainly wouldn't argue with if they said their favorite trio was the 24/35/75... My point is I think it matters most what your first favorite focal is, then makes sense to build your kit logically around it based on how you see... My .02 only, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted October 26, 2007 Share #32 Posted October 26, 2007 Geez Jack i think you described my bag and yours.LOL Actually truth be told we have almost come to the same conclusions on glass. I have a couple extra but the main system is almost identical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack_Flesher Posted October 26, 2007 Share #33 Posted October 26, 2007 Geez Jack i think you described my bag and yours.LOL Actually truth be told we have almost come to the same conclusions on glass. I have a couple extra but the main system is almost identical. We do have nearly identical bags now, though we arrived there by very different routes. I do think it's important though for folks to decide early on if they prefer the 28/50 pair (eff 37/65) or the 24/35 pair (eff 32/47); if the latter, it will probably force slightly different choices at both ends than we made... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted October 26, 2007 Share #34 Posted October 26, 2007 I think one needs to decide what is the lens cap lens either a 28 or 35 because that helps with the spacing issue. Not everyone wants 10 lenses or is practical . If you go 28 than what makes the most sense spacing wise is 12 or 15, 21,28, 50, than either 75 or 90. For 35mm lens users you still can go 15mm, 24, 35, 75 seems the best. Notice how that 15mm or 12mm gets in there becuase there valuable focal lengths. We need more choices here and as far as I am concerned the weak link. The WATE is wonderful but not everyone can sell there car for it. The CV are good but leica can make a better prime down here at a reasonable cost to handle this need. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2007 Share #35 Posted October 26, 2007 As I left it far too late for the Yosemite trip I listened to all the advice and upgraded my 28 elmarit to a 28 cron.Pleased with the results and hopefully will meet Jack and Guy in 2008. Thanks for all the good advice. Brian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted October 26, 2007 Share #36 Posted October 26, 2007 Sorry to lighten your pocket with money though. The 28 cron in my book is a marvel of a lens. LOL Okay going to stress my life out , going to load Leopard today. PULL hair starting in 1 hour. I'm backed up and ready. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted October 26, 2007 Share #37 Posted October 26, 2007 I would go with the 28 'Cron. It's definitely the "lenscap" on my M8. My 35 Lux is the lenscap on my .58X M7. The 35mm focal length is a legacy on the Leica M. It gives you a bit of breathing room but isn't too wide and one can do a nice portrait if need be. The other nice thing about the 28mm on the M8 is that it pulls up the cleanest easiest to read set of frame lines. The 24/35 combo is too distracting. The 35 on the M7 also pulls up the cleanest set of framelines. An important point, at least for me. Because my 35 Lux exhibits focus shift from 2.8-5.6 or so on the M8 it only gets pulled out when the light goes real low. Performs amazing at 1.4. But the 28 is a much better daily user. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted October 26, 2007 Share #38 Posted October 26, 2007 What is all this talk about "lenscaps"? Isn't that supposed to be body caps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted October 26, 2007 Share #39 Posted October 26, 2007 What is all this talk about "lenscaps"? Isn't that supposed to be body caps? Ha! You're right. Lens caps usually get left in a big baggie back at the studio (uv/ir filter is my "lenscap"). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted October 27, 2007 Share #40 Posted October 27, 2007 It's funny about the ideal trio or quartet of lenses... they're all different and they all have their uses. The 35 lux ASPH just has an almost uncanny quality about it wide open: edge to edge performance is great and so is colour, lack of vignette and, IMO, pleasing bokeh and out of focus areas. But in terms of use I have to admit I shoot the 21 /24 more than anything else (and what goes on the camera depends on the subject and what I'm shooting); next popular is the then 35. Don't really use a 28 that much with the 24 so handy (but I'll have to try the 'cron and maybe that will change). Next, oddly enough, come the 90s--the old 90 "thin" Elmarit, then the 90 cron pre-asph. The 75 Lux when I'm feeling like I can deal with the framelines... The only one I don't use that much, but still love when I do, is the 50 lux. Probably because I'm shooting the 80R in the same-ish range on a full frame camera...too many choices sometimes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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