johnastovall Posted October 19, 2007 Share #1 Posted October 19, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I'm putting together an order for a Lugi case and saw his soft release is offered in either concave or convex. To me the concave looked more usable that the convex. Has anyone any expirence or preferrence for one over the other? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 19, 2007 Posted October 19, 2007 Hi johnastovall, Take a look here Lugi's soft release on the M8?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
glenerrolrd Posted October 19, 2007 Share #2 Posted October 19, 2007 I bought the Concave in Black Paint. Love the release..paint is gone in a day . The advantage of the Convex is supposed to be an ability to loop the shooting finger over release..see Tim Abrahamson s site (sorry if I spelled his name wrong don t have it handy). I have been told that this isn t correct someone that shoots pistols ..so their are definately two points of view. . Keep in mind that these unscrew easily and fall out..some suggest using a weaker version of locktite or using nail polish to create some stick . The thraed is short so tightening only works if you remember to check it each time you go out. I am going to try the Convex version as I am tending to use the edge of the concave version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mat_mcdermott Posted October 19, 2007 Share #3 Posted October 19, 2007 Whether or not it's correct for shooting pistols, I find looping the finger over the Abrahamsson soft release to work very well. I can gain at least a stop if not two on the low end and still have acceptably sharp photos. It takes some practice to lock exposure with the soft release though. They also do unscrew very easily. I generally buy a couple at a time and lose one every couple of months...but since I keep going back to buy new ones they must do something for me... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibogost Posted October 19, 2007 Share #4 Posted October 19, 2007 Whether or not it's correct for shooting pistols, I find looping the finger over the Abrahamsson soft release to work very well. I can gain at least a stop if not two on the low end and still have acceptably sharp photos. It takes some practice to lock exposure with the soft release though. I agree completely with this. They also do unscrew very easily. I generally buy a couple at a time and lose one every couple of months...but since I keep going back to buy new ones they must do something for me... A small amount of nail polish keeps the soft release in place. I haven't lost one for many months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
haribo Posted October 19, 2007 Share #5 Posted October 19, 2007 Whether or not it's correct for shooting pistols, I find looping the finger over the Abrahamsson soft release to work very well. I can gain at least a stop if not two on the low end and still have acceptably sharp photos. It takes some practice to lock exposure with the soft release though. They also do unscrew very easily. I generally buy a couple at a time and lose one every couple of months...but since I keep going back to buy new ones they must do something for me... I second that. The Abrahamsson (Rapidwinder) Softie is awesome. To solve the unscrew habit, I use a little dab of hairspray. makes it stick nicely without being permanent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
etrigan63 Posted October 19, 2007 Share #6 Posted October 19, 2007 I have the Luigi Convex SoftRelease in black paint and it works very well. No unscrewing issues due to Luigi's use of high grade stainless steel in his SoftRelease (as opposed to TA's use of alloys). Paint is still going strong on mine - no marks whatsoever. Pic: I also use the M8 grip + Tim Isaac's Thumbs Up Model 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted October 19, 2007 Share #7 Posted October 19, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've used Tom's softies on all my Ms for years and really appreceiated how they helped, but after a few months of use on the M8 I've abandoned them. I found that the softie was exagerating the notchiness of the shutter and if anything was hindering the ability to shoot with long exposure times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
guy Posted October 19, 2007 Share #8 Posted October 19, 2007 I have the convex black one on my M8. I chose it primarily because it most closely mimics the feel of a domed Nikon shutter release, which I'd got used to on my D100 and D200. When I switched to the M8 I found it a bit disconcerting having to "dig in" with a fingertip to fire the shutter – an issue complicated by the three levels of actuation involved for metering, meter lock and shutter release. Sometimes I felt I was still having to burrow down to the shutter release as the moment was slipping past me, whereas the Nikon just fired. It works very, very well. Things do become very hair-trigger, though, especially in terms of metering, but I prefer that. Agree that they unscrew a bit easily (because using the on / off switch encourages you to rotate the rim) but I'm going to do the nail-polish thing, which I'd heard of before, once I can decide on the right shade. Overall, I think you gain at least a stop by using these. To be honest, at the price, I'd buy one of each and then decide which works best for you. I very nearly did that myself before realising that what I was really looking for was a recreation of the Nikon feel. (I do realise this is heresy... ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted October 19, 2007 Share #9 Posted October 19, 2007 I've used Tom's softies on all my Ms for years and really appreceiated how they helped, but after a few months of use on the M8 I've abandoned them. I found that the softie was exagerating the notchiness of the shutter and if anything was hindering the ability to shoot with long exposure times. Same with me. Still use them on the M6, but not on the 8. - Carl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauribix Posted October 19, 2007 Share #10 Posted October 19, 2007 I have the Luigi Convex SoftRelease in black paint and it works very well. No unscrewing issues due to Luigi's use of high grade stainless steel in his SoftRelease (as opposed to TA's use of alloys). Paint is still going strong on mine - no marks whatsoever. Pic: I also use the M8 grip + Tim Isaac's Thumbs Up Model 1 ahhhhhh.... lovely MADE IN ITALY.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hankg Posted October 19, 2007 Share #11 Posted October 19, 2007 I've always used the convex release from Tom. My trigger finger's second joint lays over the release almost under the knuckle in a very relaxed and natural grip. I can squeeze off a shot easily. Having to fire with the tip of the finger contorts the hand into a very awkward position, especially if you have large hands . I'd rather use the regular shutter release if I was firing with the tip of the finger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootist Posted October 19, 2007 Share #12 Posted October 19, 2007 Never used one of these soft, just what is soft about it (better described as a Extened), releases on any of the M's I have owned. I've never had a problem pushing the shutter button. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnfriar Posted October 19, 2007 Share #13 Posted October 19, 2007 I just obtained Luigis half case and a convex soft release. The case makes the M8 sound much smoother (almost as good as my Contax G2) but, like Steve and Carl above, I find the use of the soft release really does exaggerate the "notchiness" of the M8 shutter. It does this to the point of canceling out the benefits of the half case. Therefore, I've decided not to use it. John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tummydoc Posted October 19, 2007 Share #14 Posted October 19, 2007 I have the Luigi Convex SoftRelease in black paint and it works very well. No unscrewing issues due to Luigi's use of high grade stainless steel in his SoftRelease (as opposed to TA's use of alloys). Paint is still going strong on mine - no marks whatsoever. Pic: I also use the M8 grip + Tim Isaac's Thumbs Up Model 1 Ah, what a lovely, compact, discreet kit Too bad the hot shoe is occupied, or a set of steer horns would complete the look splendidly In re: T/A softie: the added depth of the M8 over the prior bodies changes the geometry of the finger-looped-over-from-rear modus operandi unfavourably. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
etrigan63 Posted October 20, 2007 Share #15 Posted October 20, 2007 Doc, I also shoot a Canon 1D Mk 2 and my M8 (steer horns and all) is a tiny fraction of the size/bulk/weight of my DSLR. I have big hands and am used to having a place for my fingers to fall upon. The M8 in Bauhaus mode (no ergonomic modifications of any kind) felt small and slippery to me. Before I installed the grip, I would regularly cover the focusing patch window with my middle finger. This is what works for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwelland Posted October 20, 2007 Share #16 Posted October 20, 2007 I think that a lot of these ergonomic discussions are really dependent upon the size of the person's hands, grip and style. I'm in the same position as Carlos in so far as I have larger hands which mean that without either the Leica grip or Luigi grip-case I'll tend to obscure the focussing patch window. The grip changes the position of my hand so that this doesn't happen. Ditto with the T/A softie. I find that with my hands that I'm pushing down on the shutter vs being able to comfortably lay the tip of my finger across it. The T/A softie allows the shutter release to fall under the first joint in my finger which results in a much smoother shutter release - for me at least. I'm sure that if your hands/fingers are different then alternative configurations will suit you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
etrigan63 Posted October 20, 2007 Share #17 Posted October 20, 2007 Ergonomics is a purely personal thing. Whatever works for you, not the guy next to you. I know people whose hands look like ET's and an M8 would only be usable for them mounted on a side flash bracket with grip! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gesper Posted October 20, 2007 Share #18 Posted October 20, 2007 I use the TA softie and like it a lot. It has fallen out twice while streetshooting, but I found it both times. Can't expect to keep being that lucky, so I better try the nailpolish thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Olof Posted October 21, 2007 Share #19 Posted October 21, 2007 I'm putting together an order for a Lugi case and saw his soft release is offered in either concave or convex. To me the concave looked more usable that the convex. Has anyone any expirence or preferrence for one over the other? Sorry, but i really think that these "SoftRelease", is someting nobody needs ! Its very ugly and WHY do you need it ? Dont tell me that you can shoot a shorter time with it , than without.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tummydoc Posted October 21, 2007 Share #20 Posted October 21, 2007 Sorry, but i really think that these "SoftRelease", is someting nobody needs ! Its very ugly and WHY do you need it ? Dont tell me that you can shoot a shorter time with it , than without.. Careful man, questioning the manner in which people dress-up their dolls will likely earn you a savaging Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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