sdai Posted October 9, 2007 Share #1 Posted October 9, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) If it's human error ... blame me for spreading another unsubstantiated rumor. LOL But, I can't see Digilux 3 on B&H web site anymore ... no, I was not going to buy it ... bought some film stuff and a Canon point and shooter instead. Perhaps good stuff is comin' for you 4/3 fans. ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 9, 2007 Posted October 9, 2007 Hi sdai, Take a look here Digilux 3 disappeared from B&H web site. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
miami91 Posted October 9, 2007 Share #2 Posted October 9, 2007 The good stuff coming is most likely from Olympus (E-3 is being introduced 10/17). However, if Leica is readying a successor, it seems destined to be a rebadged L10 , which personally I would not be excited about. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankA Posted October 10, 2007 Share #3 Posted October 10, 2007 You are right. It is gone. I did receive an email that Leica is extending its loyalty rebate of 30% on a digilux 3 until december 31. Must be getting rid of factory stock. I am torn. I would love to have one but would like to see the successor. I want that lens on the camera. I hope it stays with whatever replaces the 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodbokeh Posted October 10, 2007 Share #4 Posted October 10, 2007 B&H may have got in trouble for advertising and selling the Digilux 3 at the Leica Loyalty discount price without a certifcate being turned in by the customer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted October 10, 2007 Share #5 Posted October 10, 2007 I received an email from Leica this week reminding me of the 30% discount, so I doubt that it's discontinued. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankA Posted October 10, 2007 Share #6 Posted October 10, 2007 Interesting comment about B&H. I did not know that Leica could control retail selling price. They get their profit on sales to B&H. If B&H wants to sell at a lower price that is their decision. Guess I am wrong on that one. I have trouble believing that Leica would cut out one of the highest volume retailers from their distribution channel but I have learned that Leica plays by their own set of odd rules. They want to keep the red dot special and I understand that. But for this camera it is a little odd. You can get the identical camera from panny for at less than half the cost. The only difference being jpeg processing and warranty from what I can tell. I shoot raw so no difference to me. I want the red dot though. I can wait for the price to come down. Still want that lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastFashnReloaded Posted October 10, 2007 Share #7 Posted October 10, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Interesting comment about B&H. I did not know that Leica could control retail selling price. They get their profit on sales to B&H. If B&H wants to sell at a lower price that is their decision. Guess I am wrong on that one. I have trouble believing that Leica would cut out one of the highest volume retailers from their distribution channel but I have learned that Leica plays by their own set of odd rules. They want to keep the red dot special and I understand that. But for this camera it is a little odd. You can get the identical camera from panny for at less than half the cost. The only difference being jpeg processing and warranty from what I can tell. I shoot raw so no difference to me. I want the red dot though. I can wait for the price to come down. Still want that lens. And of course you can get an Oly E-330 for around $500 with a two lens kit. It seems little silly to pay triple that for an L1 or Digilux 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryp Posted October 10, 2007 Share #8 Posted October 10, 2007 B&H may have got in trouble for advertising and selling the Digilux 3 at the Leica Loyalty discount price without a certifcate being turned in by the customer. B&H endeavors to honor all price-advertising and MAP agreements which we enter into with our suppliers. Our relationship with Leica USA is excellent and if we had inadvertently erred in a printed or online ad I am sure Leica and our buyers would have resolved this situation amicably. I found the Digilux 3 by entering LEDL3* in the search field on our home page. It's available in black or silver in three iterations: The camera as packaged by Leica As above plus our "basic" accessory kit As above plus our "deluxe" accessory kit. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Interesting comment about B&H. I did not know that Leica could control retail selling price. They can't control the selling price but via their MAP agreement they do control the advertised price. That said, you may want to find a NYTimes article dated June 29, 2007 headlined, "Century-Old Ban Lifted on Minimum Retail Pricing," which reported, "Striking down an antitrust rule nearly a century old, the Supreme Court ruled on Thursday that it was not automatically unlawful for manufacturers and distributors to agree on minimum retail prices." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhmitchell Posted October 10, 2007 Share #9 Posted October 10, 2007 Henry: Thanks for contributing to the thread. However, it appears that you are confusing the D-Lux 3 and the digilux 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share #10 Posted October 10, 2007 Very interesting, Henry. Searching by LEDL3* returns a bunch of D-Lux3 bundles ... no Digilux 3 there. LOL And thanks a lot for the comment on MRP ... I'm very happy with B&H! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankA Posted October 11, 2007 Share #11 Posted October 11, 2007 To Henry of B&H: My comments actually supported that you could do what you did. I was responding to an earlier post with a little incredulity. However, it is the digilux 3 that is missing from you web page. When I type digilux 3 into your search line, no camera comes up. For the record, I think you are the finest retailer around. I have spent a lot of money in person and on line with B&H and will do so long into the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted October 11, 2007 Author Share #12 Posted October 11, 2007 Somebody posted the link on dpreview ... so it's discontinued. Guess what Leica will do ... if they're going to rebadge another 4/3 camera, it better be the phantom E-3. Leica | Digilux 3 Digital Camera Kit with Leica D | 18284 | B&H Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemalk Posted October 11, 2007 Share #13 Posted October 11, 2007 What I don't understand is why the Panasonic L1 is still available, especially seeing that it was announced and available months before the Digilux 3. I really don't hope its a rebadged L10 that's coming from Leica... the E-3 makes much more sense, although its even more puzzling seeing that even THAT camera hasn't been "announced" yet. I love my D3 and it may make sense to snap up an L1 while they're still available. Either that or wait for the high-end Panasonic DSLR to rear its head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted October 11, 2007 Share #14 Posted October 11, 2007 Panasonic manufactures batches for Leica, as far as I know. I doubt that Leica Digilux 3 sales would have supported another run. Panasonic can manufacture their own cameras more flexibly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted October 11, 2007 Share #15 Posted October 11, 2007 there is that rumour of a second Panasonic dSLR as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted October 11, 2007 Author Share #16 Posted October 11, 2007 What are the odds that Leica drops the 4/3 lineup altogether? ... technically they could do this. There's no chance that a 2000 US rebadged L10 will sell ... and I suspect that Leica's deal with Panasonic will prevent them from licensing a Olympus body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henryp Posted October 11, 2007 Share #17 Posted October 11, 2007 Henry:Thanks for contributing to the thread. However, it appears that you are confusing the D-Lux 3 and the digilux 3. You're right and I was wrong. My bad. Sorry. Seems my fingers are faster than my brain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted October 11, 2007 Share #18 Posted October 11, 2007 ...and I suspect that Leica's deal with Panasonic will prevent them from licensing a Olympus body. You're probably right Simon --- they won't be able to directly rebadge the E-3. But it does appear there's a fair amount of cross-development (or cross licensing) happening between all members of the 4/3 consortium. For example, the "supersonic" wave filter that provides the anti-dust feature on the L1 and Digilux 3 is an Olympus creation. So even if Leica ends up re-badging a Panasonic, if a new Panasonic dSLR (*not* the L10)reflects the innovations the E-3 will apparently be bringing, that wouldn't be too bad. I know it's all speculation at this point, but there's pretty good evidence (the mysterious PDF, Olympus Digital DNA episodes, etc.) that the E-3 will have a 10-12 megapixel sensor, greatly improved high-ISO results, 5 fps, larger and brighter viewfinder (pentaprism), very fast autofocus, in-body image stabilization (5 stop effectiveness), articulated 2.5" LCD, full-time live view, and a sealed magnesium body of very high build quality. And all for under $2000.00. If this proves to be true, and Leica doesn't answer with a similar model, I'll be going all-Olympus for dSLR gear and not looking back, as will, I imagine, many other L1 or Digilux 3 owners. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bo_Lorentzen Posted October 11, 2007 Share #19 Posted October 11, 2007 Hello Jeff, You bring up a very good point. it is a lot of cross everything going on. Right now I am using a Digilux 3 made by Panasonic with a number of Olympus lenses, and my girlfriend love the E510 - we both can grab in the same lens bag which is a huge benefit. I would positively love to see a very highend Leica entry, but as far as I am concerned, my real investment at this point is directly into the 4:3 system, and while I love my digilux 3, the broad involvement of different companies in the 4:3 system make me feel very good about continuing my investment. and the future viability of this system. Bo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
miami91 Posted October 11, 2007 Share #20 Posted October 11, 2007 Same here Bo. I've purchased two Olympus Zuiko lenses in the (about) one year I've had the D3 --- the 7-14mm and the 50-200mm. Oh, and the 1.3 teleconverter as well. I'm very impressed with Olympus, and would have no hesitation in buying an E system body from them. I'm still partial to the red dot, but if Leica doesn't keep pace, or prices the Digilux 4 unreasonably, I see an E-3 in my future. BTW, your safari pictures are excellent. I looked at them a week or two ago, and just did again now. I'm currently planning a trip to South Africa for next fall, and although the primary focus will be Cape Town and the winelands, I'm going to try to work in a couple of days on a game reserve. Jeff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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